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Build your own heatpump !

Started by hartiberlin, June 04, 2006, 12:21:56 PM

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lancaIV

Quote from: pix on August 01, 2023, 06:58:39 AM

;D  You are kidding?
1. EU industry will collapse, due to overregulation, taxes and high energy/production/labour costs already biggest producers are moving away from EU. CO2 will be produced in wast amounts in countries who don't give a f*** about your eco-mania. India, China, Africa ect.

No,not due overregulation,but 3-/4-times credit activa leveraging( estate,comercial,private bugets +) ,now as final participant : the ECB ! Similar U.S.-society/F.E.D. !

Many producers in the E.U. losts /are actually loosing their temporary granted monopolist patent rights,they are now in challenge with world-wide low income/low regulation/low energy costs WTO-members !


CO2 is an industrial product,diverting C and O you get two chemical elements to work with !

2. Every socialist utopia ends up in powerty, social unrests (see France example) and hunger. EU climatic and energy policy is such utopia that is already costing EU citizens extra money.
The first ' socialist utopia' ? Sowjetucraine,constitued 1919 ,the U.S.S.R. later,1922 !

3. I wish you a very success , please put PV panels on your roof, put a tonne of storage batteries in your basement, install a heat pump and disconnect from the grid . Are you disconnected already?  ;D ;D ;D
Actually I do not need it ,disconnection ! It is affordable enough ,the grid service ! ;) The E.U. program and outlook : final stage 2050 ! :)
Much tea-time !
Taking the 2022-2100 preview for Africa its population and the 20% migration quote( near,far emigration ) I expect 50% africanide population soon in 2050 : in Peninsula IBERICA !

E.U. : 1/3, Eurafrique Union ,E.A.U.,to differ from l'eau





pix

Quote from: lancaIV on August 01, 2023, 07:19:23 AM
Actually I do not need it ,disconnection ! It is affordable enough ,the grid service ! ;) The E.U. program and outlook : final stage 2050 ! :)
Much tea-time !
Taking the 2022-2100 preview for Africa its population and the 20% migration quote( near,far emigration ) I expect 50% africanide population soon in 2050 : in Peninsula IBERICA !

E.U. : 1/3, Eurafrique Union ,E.A.U.
As usual you contradict yourself.
First you say " grid no more needed". Then at second reply you admit you do not disconnect from the grid. ???
Please get in some kind of agreement with yourself.


lancaIV

Quote from: pix on August 01, 2023, 07:35:38 AM
As usual you contradict yourself.
First you say " grid no more needed". Then at second reply you admit you do not disconnect from the grid. ???
Please get in some kind of agreement with yourself.
I do not plan for yesterday and before,but today for the un-dated " tomorrow",2030-2040-2050- ......  !I have my priorities ! And financial aspects ! And idleness,based by cheap serving culture by others  !
Not I ' say/write' about ' no grid anymore' ,it is actually E.U. program for the next DECADES  ,not for today ! :D Give the people/peuple TIME and RELAXATION to change their thinking and habits !
Beside corporal migration as seen,strategical Mind-Migration

wmbr
OCWL

p.s.: I incorporate into the global society ,corporal/physiological/mental,the A.I.-Robotic-VirtualReality-CNC technology advantages in time,energy and mass input units !
Another sociologic 90' term : Factor 10 ; ten times faster,cheaper,lighter
90% less bureaucracy = 1000%+ efficiency

An example,here ,300 meters away :
A 3d house constructed in 24 hours on plot,the bureaucratic ' estatal' licence wait time for this house construction  : up to 1,5 years !
500 days - 1 day =  negavolution

Estate maior value versus Estate minor-value

Solar panels on the roof ?
Why not 'solar' better : artificial photo-/later phono-voltaic tubes in-door,under/on tect fixed,not ground place losts ?
Much battery capacity ? 1-1,5 KWh for modern private 3-4 capita households enough !
We take C.I.A.M conference 66,5 sqm ( 9 sqm ea+ 30,5 sqm social area) for the sociologic 4 capita-familly ideal,
what 1929,conference date, and 2023 defines the global credit maximum in social acceptable quantity !

66,5 sqm ~ 4 times ,each familly capita 1x
https://www.glen-l.com/Niagara-Plans-Patterns/productinfo/50-240/  space/area ,enough !

66,5 sqm ~ 2 times
http://www.designnconstruction.com/design/ikea-35-square-metre-home/

66,5 sqm~ 4x
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakagin_Capsule_Tower 


+ 1x 40 feet container space (social common area )

66,5 sqm~ 4x
https://www.joostdevree.nl/shtmls/spacebox.shtml

66,5 sqm ~ 5 x Casanova Raummodul a 13 sqm
http://www.bubblemania.fr/de/pappeder-26-allemagne/

the foam-tect/-walls comercial energetic experiment results and we get in 0°C minimum climate zones and wished 18-20°C indoor climate ( eternal spring) an energetic heat need about 600 Wp per hour,this translates as heat pump C.O.P. 10 an electric Wp of 60 per hour !
600 Wp/66,5 sqm as improved actually 665 Wp PE/66,5 sqm Passive House energetic demand ! 10 Wp/sqm


Let us assume 100 eWp,the C.O.P. 10 is an average performance over the heating saison result,outdoor colder temperatures( and energy content in air) gives lower numbers !

E.U.- member Ireland only let now buildings being construct by Passive House,10 Wp PE/sqm, condition !PE = Primary Energy ;

In countries with older fossil derivate power plants and low/no RE production we can calculate with up to 2,6 KWh PE per KWh electricity consume,
a comercial ,not motor consume controlled inverter incorporated,air/air heat pump reaches a C.O.P. 2,5 all-time performance( Fraunhofer Institute comercial heat pump work performance comparison )

= C.O.P. heat pump / 1KWh electric EE in PE  ~  Near C.O.P. 1


pix,my ' ....contradiction,as usual ....' is not to find,when You read clearly :  inside chronographical  time-line !

Btw : some years back we as private household were for some weeks in ' off-grid'- conditional living(having in-house our own water well,low deep !),world-globetrotter counts in months being autonomous !Changing habits by wish or physical demand (peak...)  or  anti-consume therapy !