Trawoeer Power Pyramid Version 12 - Electrical output from a homemade pyramid

[neptune]

@Pascuser . First let me say that the work of you and your friend appears to be of very high quality .You have obviously spent a lot of time and money on this project . I am not sure that I understand the problem you are having with the wire on the capacitor . I think that the important thing is that the inner wire and the outer wire should be exactly the same length . The other possible problem that you may have is the type of sand . I think that there are now several people who are in the same situation as you are . They have completed a pyramid , and got no results . I do not know when Thomas is due to return from Egypt . However , I feel that if he really wants to see his work replicated and advanced ,he needs to give help to the people who are trying to help him .

[Pascuser]

Yes, help is needed. For me, step 1 of the system has not passed; step 1 is the millivolt reading for the reactor before all is correctly oriented and above the node that Thomas had and said we should have. If not, then the sand is the problem according to him (troubleshooting Thomas's video).

I used sand specially bought for swimming pool filtration. I tested it with a magnet, there is no magnetic material inside. I filtered it with a 0.8 mm filter so to have the same particle size than him. I made it cook 40 minutes in the oven 180°C (very hot) before using. I used the same kind of procedure with 27MHz CB.

So yes, the trouble may be in the sand, but as I can't test all the possible sands in the world; a great help from Thomas could be to send to some of us (people with no working reactor) an amount of the sand he uses for his reactor, so we could test if this solves the problem. A test with the high voltage charging  and with a CB charging; not sending sand to the whole planet, and we could say: yes or not this solves the trouble, to know wether our sand was not good.

The problem I had with the capacitor is the following: Thomas said that the length of the inner and outer coil must be the same, 11 meters approximately; but most important the exact same length (with a 10 centimeters error). I used a 1.5mm² wire like him; insulation gain and wire diameter is a standard for this kind of wire used in electricity in Europe. I have the same. I rolled it on a PVC rod, diameter 20mm, the same as his. I tightened coil turns so there was no spacing. Then I had 150 turns for my inner coil and 122 turns for the outer coil, with an exact length of 11 meters with an error less than 2 millimeters.

Now I counted the number of turns he had: 142 full turns (and two halfs = 143) for the inner coil and 125 turns (and two halfs = 126) for its outer coil.  I counted its turn number on the video on various pictures where I could and I find the same number I wrote here each times. So I don't have the same number of turn. A little difference in the wire diameter could explain it... if there were no inconsistency.

Because he has less turn than me for the inner and more turns than me for the outer. This is not possible, altough wire diameter is not the same. It is possible only if there is a big difference of length between its wires. The inner one should be 10.49 meters and the outer one 11.36m to explain this. So you see that we have not an exact equality of wire length with a 0.1m error. This is a problem for me with the capacitor. But since the capacitor isn't the problem I have now, but the reactor sanding first; this problem is not a priority!

[neptune]

@Pascuser .I would deal with the capacitor problem for now by not worrying about the number of turns , just the wire length .I think it was you who said that the wire length , 11 metres is approximately the wavelength at 27 Mhz and this is probably more important than the inductance of the capacitor coils . You are right when you say that you can not try every kind of sand in the world . If you look back through the threads , madsatbg shows some test results for different kinds of sand , and this may help you . If everything else fails , we shall have to wait for the return of TT . Good luck .

[GPS25]

As well Thomas's project I am experimenting with the pyramid shape to see the benefits growing vegies in a Pyramid Shape Green House.Those interested can watch my video of how to build One .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NagJ6fN_9UQ&feature=channel_video_title

Anybody interested follow the idea and lets see the real facts.
Best Wishes George.

[k4zep]

Hi all,

Lets go back to a little bit of basic theory.  Simple ohms law.  The series DC resistance of the double coils, internal and external that connect to the Capacitor are approximately 1 ohm.  I'm rounding off here to make calculations easy.  Now in the outdoor video part 2 @ 5:51 the Model power meter shows  approximately 7.80 VDC @ .35 amps into a load @ 2.7 watts.  As this is a series circuit, the coils/power source and the motor load, we know that across the RESISTANCE of the coils X the series DC current,  we would only show .35 VDC across that portion of the circuit but the nice little voltmeter in the unit is showing 7.8 VCE!!!!!.  Something is rotten here.  We have a circuit that simply can not work as shown.  I highly suspect that there are rechargeable batteries in the "Reactor" for many reasons.

#1.  Voltages always shown are multiples of voltages from nicads or lithium batteries not the 12VDC as promised.
#2.  We are never shown the voltages in the circuit when started, only when running.
#3.  He said voltage is not important, only current.  In the circuit shown, that is NOT true.  Voltage does not vary but by a few hundred mv
when load is varied, indicative of a low impedance battery in the circuit.
#4.  His unit works inside and we are told to work it outside with nothing close.
#5.  Never demonstrated unit working and then moved off north or off "dowsing point".
#6.  For a short time in one of the outside videos there was a large 2"tube coil/tube with clip leads, when asked, said was for stopping
the device.  I suspect it was for charging the batteries.
#7.  Never showed the device powering the 20+ watt unit for several hours, only for a few seconds.  No problem for Lithium batteries.
#8.  Test early on for a working reactor are bogus, simple ac induction from surround area as several people have noted.  A total mis-use
of test equipment.

It simply boils down to you can't have 7.8VDC across a  1 ohm source/resistance in a parallel circuit drawing .35 amps in that loop.  See attached photo.  Actually, Resistance could be as low as .2 to .3 ohms for the coil as TT told me the external coil was not needed, only smoothed the output.  Which makes the circuit even more impossible to explain.  Figures don't lie, but liars figure.

It just goes on and on, I could give a hundred reasons I see where there are problems in the description/etc. I am ashamed that I was sucked into this.  I let my heart not my mind guide me away from everything I have learned/know over a lifetime of electronic work.  Damn, we so much want to believe!!!!!

Having talked to TT extensively, I do NOT HAVE A CLUE why he has went to all this work to do this.  He seems a pleasant, honest chap and I suspect his knowledge of electronics is much more than he indicates.  Go figure!

He said he sent me parts but has not given me a tracking number after repeated request and as of this date, they have not arrived after approximately 2 months.

I have seen the work of all out there by  and it is some very fine, detailed work. I commend you all! Folks, never forget simple DC circuits/ohms law in series and parallel branch circuits.  A load is a load, a volt is a volt, a source is a source and a amp is an amp, etc.  Never let your heart overcome your brain when it comes to science!  That's all I have to say.  I'm simply throwing away all this work today as wife wants it out of the Condo and am calling it quits on this device.  I simply refuse to waste any more time on it.

Respect to all,
I remain,
Ben K4ZEP