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How do you make Money from an overunity device that can not be patented?

Started by Justsomeguy, September 09, 2011, 01:49:20 AM

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e2matrix

Quote from: lumen on September 10, 2011, 12:54:16 AM
I have given this concept some thought a while back and could find only one real answer to turn such a discovery into wealth.
First a patent would be of no value because the magnitude of the discovery would be worth more than everything patented to this point in history so you could bet some law would change and they would make your discovery freeware (so to speak).The value is to high for a single entity to control.

Given this problem, I figured the fastest way to turn it to money is also the easiest. Simply make 100,000 small scale models of the working device and sell them with plans on how it operates and how to build a large up scale model on Ebay for 100 each.

Once the market is flooded, it would be game on and you would surly have sold 50 to 80 thousand models with plans, at $100. each.

Not a huge amount of money, but easy, fast and unstoppable.  Plus, in the end with the device in the masses, Money would end up useless. (People will be throwing their money in the streets) I think the phrase goes.

Might work and I sure would consider $10 Million a huge amount of money. 

mikestocks2006

Just a couple of things ( of many more ), to consider.
To manufacture, for example, 100 thousand units may not be an easy task.
The seller needs to consider raw materials purchase, manufacturing of parts and assembly, and of course all involved time costs.
Time costs include everything from time to order parts, interface with the machine shop,  assemble them, set up/maintain website, process orders, shipments, follow-ups etc…
How long does it take to put a unit together and how much do the materials, parts assembly cost per unit? How many units will be produced per day?
Then what is the profit per unit? 
For such volumes, one may need a small assembly line and few people to work etc. These people will want to get paid, so at least some sizeable starting investment capital needs to be had and so on.
Maybe a device can be extremely simple and most of the above are minimized…

Interesting thread.
Thanks
Mike

evolvingape

Wilby your history is not irrelevant, although I am sure you would like it to be, in my opinion you are the most prolific troll that has ever appeared on this forum.

The logical fallacy argument is one you trot out far to often, only occasionally do you bother to explain why you consider the argument to be fallacious.

My implication that he would be responsible for 22,000 children dying per day is not a logical fallacy, by the very pursuit and attainment of a free energy device the inventor has made himself ethically responsible, by achieving the ability to effect real change in this regard he has presented himself with a choice, and therefore a responsibility.

I said you do not understand the significance and importance of an easily replicable overunity device. This is not gross hyperbole, you implied this when you said 22,000 kids died and how is that your responsibility ?

To suggest that an individual gives away every asset he owns is ridiculous. To do so would barely make a dent in the problem and would prevent a stable base from which to address the root of the problem, which is the control of energy.

I was in error when I said you stated you care not for your neighbours child and would happily watch them die, it would have been more accurate to say that it was my interpretation of what you said. Considering your selfish attitude I do not think I was far from the truth.

So what is your purpose on this forum ? Why do you stalk the threads like a predator waiting for an opportunity to attack people via the manipulation of language ?

RM :)






evolvingape

Quote from: Justsomeguy on September 09, 2011, 11:46:25 PM
I actually do understand the significance of it. Anywhere could become habitable and productive. An ion drive would be useful. carbon footprints would go away. In Thirty years or so oil would be primarily a lubricant. And people will still be dying at the same rate for another hundred years. People will still live in shanty towns, mud huts etc....
Greece may default by tuesday,Germany will follow, the dollar index will go up, metals should pull back. The market will drop on monday and rally back by the end of the week. So what. It is easy to say what you would do hypothetically. But, If you were holding a winning lottery ticket, I bet you would cash it in.

So, anywhere could become habitable and productive, removing the issue of basic survival for everyone and therefore saving millions of lives... but people will still be dying at the same rate for another hundred years ? I think not.

An overunity device is not a winning lottery ticket. One will alter the structure of our society on this planet, the other will enrich an individual beyond what they require for survival.

RM :)

Shadesz

Quote from: Low-Q on September 10, 2011, 03:31:32 AM
It really is shit. If someone think the oil is the biggest business in this world, it is not. The biggest business is drugs. On the 2.nd place - weapons. Far behind that, on the 3.rd place - oil.

Weapons is big business. Litterally speaking: Where there is any chance of getting money, it is primarily used for drugs and weapons. The business of this world really sucks...

I understand and appreciate what you are saying. Although, if you think about it, one of the main motivators for the number one and two markets you describe is suppression.

For weapons, think war or turf. Well, war usually occurs as a result of greed for resources. So with a free energy device, there will be less need for current high price resources thus less need for violent confrontation.

Second drugs. If you are thinking illegal drugs most people resort to them to escape the pressures of society. If you crush the $$ control over energy, there will be less pressure on people (in the end) and thus less need for an escape. If you are talking medicine, well I can think of many many things burning all around me that are known carcinogens. (think tailpipe)