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Centripetal Force Yealds Over Unity

Started by MoRo, March 05, 2012, 07:22:17 AM

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AlanA

@ MoRo

Thanks for the new video. But I don't know what you want to say with the simulation.

But one more question to the bike video "Easy over unity".
You made some calculations on paper in post #8. It would be a great breakthrough if you could do some measurements on the running model. It would convince every skeptics  ;)

AlanA

AquariuZ

How about this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ERYReuQIrA

Don´t ask me how and what he is doing but the claims that are made are something like:

Two (electromagnet) generators who both drive a single iron construction with weights added will give 2800 rpm´s.

Then when a load is placed on the generated output... The rpms stay the same or briefly go higher.

Designer: Antonio Romero.

There is nothing in english about this btw.


AquariuZ

Quote from: AquariuZ on April 16, 2012, 12:00:42 PM
How about this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ERYReuQIrA

Don´t ask me how and what he is doing but the claims that are made are something like:

Two (electromagnet) generators who both drive a single iron construction with weights added will give 2800 rpm´s.

Then when a load is placed on the generated output... The rpms stay the same or briefly go higher.

Designer: Antonio Romero.

There is nothing in english about this btw.

Ok a little more info: (use Google translate)

TK Omega RF5000 Generator
http://www.technokontrol.com/en/current-projects/generator.php

TK AMGPP Orion Advanced Magnetic Generator Power Plant
http://www.technokontrol.com/en/products/orion.php

Another movie "proving" the principle: http://www.technokontrol.com/press-media/tk-rf5000-orion.html

Don´t ask me what they are doing.

The claim today is Technokontrol has built the principle into an aircraft which can fly without any fuel.
Delivered, tested and passed.

Who knows?

I´ll open a new thread because I am interested if someone knows them.

MoRo

Quote from: AquariuZ on April 16, 2012, 12:11:53 PM
Ok a little more info: (use Google translate)

TK Omega RF5000 Generator
http://www.technokontrol.com/en/current-projects/generator.php

TK AMGPP Orion Advanced Magnetic Generator Power Plant
http://www.technokontrol.com/en/products/orion.php

Another movie "proving" the principle: http://www.technokontrol.com/press-media/tk-rf5000-orion.html

Don´t ask me what they are doing.

The claim today is Technokontrol has built the principle into an aircraft which can fly without any fuel.
Delivered, tested and passed.

Who knows?

I´ll open a new thread because I am interested if someone knows them.

That looks like a simple flywheel, and has nothing to do with this discussion.

MoRo

Quote from: AlanA on April 16, 2012, 08:52:18 AM
@ MoRo

Thanks for the new video. But I don't know what you want to say with the simulation.

But one more question to the bike video "Easy over unity".
You made some calculations on paper in post #8. It would be a great breakthrough if you could do some measurements on the running model. It would convince every skeptics  ;)

AlanA
The bicycle setup wasn't anything for which I intended to take accurate measurements... It was just something thrown together for my observations of the principals involved. I do want to build a measured model based on my latest simulation as time will allow.  I will however leave the skeptics something to think about for right now though.

Consider this:  Tidal forces are a real world expression of a great deal of energy. This release of energy is caused by none other than moon orbit. Yet,  zero thrust has been  required to maintain the moons orbit since it came into existence. Where then does the tidal energy come from? Is it Over Unity?

The fact is, the "LAW", or more precisely the "Equation"  for "Conservation of Energy", does not apply to the final result here, because this is a 2 stage system or equation.

Conservation of Energy applies only to isolated systems... (Put energy into an "isolated" flywheel and it will keep spinning throughout time.)

The moon is an isolated system... An isolated and imbalanced flywheel in relation to the earth, with no friction. So, it keeps orbiting without any more input... That's Stage One (a fitting Conservation of Energy equation).

Stage Two or the second equation is this: as the moon orbits energy is generated for tides and  heating of the earths interior. This energy is separate and is caused by the change in direction of centripetal forces as the moon orbits, not the speed of the moon's orbit. For If this process required any energy from the speed of orbit or first equation, what then do you think would happen?