electrolysys with horizontal plates

[mark australia]

I love watching the video ...but the cigarette scared the hell out of me.

Have a look at this one

http://www.icubenetwork.com/files/watercar/non-commercial/dave/videos/Wfcrep.WMV

if my calculations are right this Stanley Myer reproduction is producing the gas (do not know volume so am building one my self) using only 24 watts.
Kind Regards
Mark

[Walter Hofmann]

Hmm,
Walter, what is the difference now ?
Both cells now have the main plates in horizontal... ?

hi stefan,
what I did wana show was the fifference in output even with the big rectangular as horizontal there is just a fraction of bubbles. What came to me as a total surprise was that it seems that the rectangular in horizontal clean up somehow the messy water.
greetings
walt

[Walter Hofmann]

I love watching the video ...but the cigarette scared the hell out of me.

Have a look at this one

http://www.icubenetwork.com/files/watercar/non-commercial/dave/videos/Wfcrep.WMV

if my calculations are right this Stanley Myer reproduction is producing the gas (do not know volume so am building one my self) using only 24 watts.
Kind Regards
Mark

Hi mark,
dont worry the cigarett is only there as long as everythings in the system is closed believe me.
like I posted yesterday, I did the volume test yesterday and the one cell what is still a vertical version puts out about 1/2 liter in 1 minute. I will try to put now the horizontal disc in a filter housing and do the same volume test.
If all this works then I will try on the weekend to fire up a small (3hp) engine to see if it is running and how it performs.
greetings
walt

[Walter Hofmann]

Hi,
yes the difference is the high outpu of the disc shaped, even that the surface area is only 1/3 what means that with the same housing size much more gass can be produced.
what nobody seems to know is why the horizontal version takes a different path and why it generates more with less and cleaner.
greetings
walt

[pg46]

Hi Walter-

Thanks for posting the video. Hey, maybe you discovered a way of cleaning up filthy water 
It's interesting that the water should react different in the different setups - that deserves further investigation for sure.

Regarding gas production differences, spacing between electrodes is of course very important and I couldn't tell if your spacing of the plates was the same or not between the two setups?

Keep in mind that using any more than 2 volts doesn't provide any gain in gas production. For electrolysis you need a little less than 1.5 volts to start the process and gas production will increase on up to about 2 volts. After 2 volts you don't gain any in gas production and in fact you will waste a lot of energy and produce heat etc. So in your setup of say 12 volts and 12 amps you have a 144 watt unit (watt = amps x volts). You could have a 2 volt unit @ the same 12 amps and have a 24 watt unit producing the same amount of gas. Using the same amount of power you are now using (about 144 watts) you could run 6 - 2volt units and produce 6 times the amount of fuel than you are now, with the same 144 watts.

1/2 litre of gas/min isn't enough to run your small ICE likely but it would be a nice supplemental fuel to try out for sure and see how the engine reacts to it. You can calculate the fuel required if you know the cc of the engine.

Great fun though this experiment of yours. Its very important to show the value of different electrode design configurations and its effects on electrolysis. Keep us posted!

Best Regards,