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Radiant Electriciy Generated with Spark Gaps and Induction Coils - Theory

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nix85

Quote from: onepower on September 22, 2021, 02:01:12 PM
nix85
To my knowledge space-time and relative time theories came about because of far off planets and inaccurate clocks. That is a planet very far away could cease to exist by the time it's light reached us letting us know it exists. It's basic astrophysics but then many had to drag in metaphysics because it seemed spooky. Next they had a problem with clocks changing time but instead of understanding that the material properties of the clock changed they created a nonsensical theory that time itself had changed, lol. I mean if your wristwatch was off would you think time miraculously changed?, it's absurd.

If time dilation was as not taken into account when triangulating your position your GPS would be off by kilometers or more.

If that is not enough for you, take into account what spacepeople say, this is a real contactee case from UK that happened in 1978.

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Frances asked: "Where is your planet?" and he replied:

"Further away than you have ever dreamed of'.

To the question, "How far away is it?" he answered:

"Several thousand light years".

Then Frances asked how long they had been travelling, and got the surprising
answer:

"For two of your years".


And yet in those 2 years 3000 years have passed on Earth!

http://galactic.no/rune/spesBoker/the_janos_people.pdf

So yea, relativity is real.

QuoteMost of these phenomena can be explained by basic Aether theory. We know that disturbances travel faster the more dense the medium carrying said disturbance. Just as an electron can travel faster in a conductor than an airplane can travel through air. The smaller the scale and the more dense the medium the faster a disturbance can travel through said medium. We also need to understand psychology and critical thinking to understand why so many come to the wrong conclusions. Let's be honest, many have created an imaginary world because they fear death. Creation, relative time, multiple dimensions and spooky phenomena all add to the illusion that we are immortal and more than we are. However if we take an objective third person perspective it becomes quite obvious were all a little crazy and misguided.

You are oversimplifying and skewing the Ether theory. Also, relative time is a fact as are multiple dimensions, no phenomena is really spooky if understood, and we are essentially immortal. Mind changes and all time-space is function of the Mind, but soul is not bound by Mind and soul is who we are, always free.

QuoteThink about that, imagine your another person looking down on yourself and objectively analyzing everything you do and think. It's not pretty, and most people find it a little disturbing so they try not to think about it. That's the thing isn't it?, were seldom if ever the person we think we are and most of what many believe isn't a reflection of reality. As they say in psychology, the only people who are truly crazy are the ones who think there not. In fact it was proven that the psychotic and insane have no mechanism for self-reflection or empathy.

In the big picture all the greatest minds in Free Energy rejected society and there false beliefs. They looked to nature because nature has no self-interest or beliefs and it is what it is. Nature is the ultimate reflection of reality not people and the crazy stuff they believe and do ...

As well all the greatest minds in free energy claimed the process was so simple even a child could understand it. Think about that, the theory wasn't complex, it did not require more and more complexity or imaginary beliefs but less. It's no wonder everyone fails at free energy because they seem to be moving in the opposite direction, lol.


Regards
AC

You are now going into psychology with strange premise dismissing higher planes, relativity etc. Why. Do you realize you are limiting yourself to a narrow scope of what you perceive as reality.

Free energy indeed is simple, to put most simply build up the reactive power and harvest it lenzlessly (may those with eyes to see see).. but this does not exclude the higher dimensions and other 'exotic' phenomena.

I am not talking about belief, higher planes are real and somewhat provable. Rest assured military black projects already operate at least 3-4 levels up!! I'll give you an example, when you are just waking up but still in-between the states, you fully see this reality but you still see that which is usually above your visual range. In that state you can see the astral phenomena, beings etc, This is NOT vision or imagination, this is wider scope of reality, just a notch wider on an immense scale, the adepts are trained to attain this state by will, they operate on multiple planes, yet most people are not awake in the astral and if they become (all do) they forget it, some do have lucid "dreams", i had a number of them and let me tell you astral is MORE real than this in each and every sense you can think of. May i repeat this that i mean it literally so, MORE REAL than this in EVERY sense. If you don't believe it you will know when you 'die' or when you wake up in so called dream.

So yes following nature is the way to go, but follow it properly not in a limiting/skewing way.

onepower

nix85
QuoteIf time dilation was as not taken into account when triangulating your position your GPS would be off by kilometers or more.

I think your confusing the issue and the phenomena.

I am not claiming the measurement of time does not change, I am claiming the material properties of the clock changed and not time itself. Your confusing the issue and I can easily make the quartz crystal in a clock vibrate faster or slower. Which begs the question, did time actually change or did the properties of the clock?. This is where Einstein and others seemed to be making various mistakes in there reasoning.

Occam's razor, the theory which makes the least assumptions is generally the right one. Your mistake is making wild assumptions that time itself has changed universally rather than simply the properties of your measuring device. Universal time as we know it must be a constant just like any other standard of measurement. Are you going to start saying an inch is really an inch and a half?, lol.

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If that is not enough for you, take into account what spacepeople say, this is a real contactee case from UK that happened in 1978.
Frances asked: "Where is your planet?" and he replied:
"Further away than you have ever dreamed of'.
To the question, "How far away is it?" he answered:
"Several thousand light years".
Then Frances asked how long they had been travelling, and got the surprising
answer:
"For two of your years".
And yet in those 2 years 3000 years have passed on Earth!

Supposing the story has any credibility the answer is not that difficult. You have 1)confused time with the material properties of something used to measure time. 2)confused velocity versus time.

In fact, a light year refers to the distance travelled at the speed of light (299 792 458 m/s) in one year. Thus if the person making the claim was travelling faster than the speed of light they could make the trip in two years. However you made the false assumption that universal time had changed rather than a craft travelling faster than the speed of light. So no 3000 years did not pass on Earth only two just as the person claimed.

QuoteYou are oversimplifying and skewing the Ether theory. Also, relative time is a fact as are multiple dimensions, no phenomena is really spooky if understood, and we are essentially immortal. Mind changes and all time-space is function of the Mind, but soul is not bound by Mind and soul is who we are, always free.

Quote: "we are essentially immortal",  all I can say is wow. So you think your like a god then?. I can't touch that, lol.

QuoteI am not talking about belief, higher planes are real and somewhat provable

The only higher plane I have seen is called a jet and "somewhat provable" is like being half pregnant.

Here is a strange thought...
I have often wondered what an advanced race of beings could be thinking, what do they think about?. It sure as hell isn't religion or politics, not food, drink or substance abuse because many don't seem to have private parts like us and seem pretty sensible. Which also rules out all the strange stuff so many other people seem preoccupied with. They also seem to avoid crowds and only travel alone or in small groups. So right out of the gate we can discard 80% of what most people believe and think is important. Which probably gives them a great deal of time to consider things which are really important based on the facts. That very well may be there secret, a lot of common sense and not being dependent on others or there beliefs. Where do I sign up?, lol.

Regards
AC






nix85

Quote from: onepower on September 23, 2021, 03:29:20 PM
nix85
I think your confusing the issue and the phenomena.

I am not claiming the measurement of time does not change, I am claiming the material properties of the clock changed and not time itself. Your confusing the issue and I can easily make the quartz crystal in a clock vibrate faster or slower. Which begs the question, did time actually change or did the properties of the clock?. This is where Einstein and others seemed to be making various mistakes in there reasoning.

Occam's razor, the theory which makes the least assumptions is generally the right one. Your mistake is making wild assumptions that time itself has changed universally rather than simply the properties of your measuring device. Universal time as we know it must be a constant just like any other standard of measurement. Are you going to start saying an inch is really an inch and a half?, lol.

I am not confusing anything, you are. "material properties of the clock changed" is not a scientific theory. It is a child-like explanation to support your false idea that time flow is same for everyone. It is not. In fact, as i said before, not only is time dilation correct, time speeds up on every plane above x49 as well as density of matter and speed of light by same amount.

But you don't believe in higher planes. This is like watching one program on a TV and since you don't know how to use the remote you conclude the one program/frequency you see is the only one there is, how foolish! Every night you tune to higher frequencies, every night your astral body floats above your physical shell.

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Supposing the story has any credibility the answer is not that difficult. You have 1)confused time with the material properties of something used to measure time. 2)confused velocity versus time.

In fact, a light year refers to the distance travelled at the speed of light (299 792 458 m/s) in one year. Thus if the person making the claim was travelling faster than the speed of light they could make the trip in two years. However you made the false assumption that universal time had changed rather than a craft travelling faster than the speed of light. So no 3000 years did not pass on Earth only two just as the person claimed.

I have not confused anything, what you write is sheer confusion.

In the book it is clearly stated that while for them on board 2 years of earth time passed, on earth thousands of years passed. Time dilation is real.

Universal time is perfect now. Time is relative on all levels. Time is AC and it oscillates in definite bands, matter of each plane capturing the time oscillations of certain frequency and only in one direction, matter and antimatter times diverging.

All this is explained in detail here https://galactic.no/rune/iarapdx1.html You might as well study it.

QuoteQuote: "we are essentially immortal",  all I can say is wow. So you think your like a god then?. I can't touch that, lol.

The only higher plane I have seen is called a jet and "somewhat provable" is like being half pregnant.

Here is a strange thought...
I have often wondered what an advanced race of beings could be thinking, what do they think about?. It sure as hell isn't religion or politics, not food, drink or substance abuse because many don't seem to have private parts like us and seem pretty sensible. Which also rules out all the strange stuff so many other people seem preoccupied with. They also seem to avoid crowds and only travel alone or in small groups. So right out of the gate we can discard 80% of what most people believe and think is important. Which probably gives them a great deal of time to consider things which are really important based on the facts. That very well may be there secret, a lot of common sense and not being dependent on others or there beliefs. Where do I sign up?, lol.

Regards
AC

You will know when you 'die'.

For those interested in life after life
http://www.luminist.org/archives/Farnese%20-%20A%20Wanderer.pdf

onepower

nix85
QuoteAll this is explained in detail here https://galactic.no/rune/iarapdx1.html You might as well study it.

Well this explains a great deal, you don't honestly believe this nonsense do you?.

Fair enough I suppose, you go on believing your some kind of time travelling immortal god and I will go on believing I'm just an average engineer with a lot of unanswered questions about nature. I couldn't possibly compete with your fantasies...

Regards
AC




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        quote from onepower
I am not claiming the measurement of time does not change, I am claiming the material properties of the clock changed and not time itself. Your confusing the issue and I can easily make the quartz crystal in a clock vibrate faster or slower. Which begs the question, did time actually change or did the properties of the clock?. This is where Einstein and others seemed to be making various mistakes in there reasoning.
         end of one power quote
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I agree with nix85, in so far as that time is a relative phenomenon.

                                                                     TIME                                                                         

Time is marked or measured (and in some ways defined) by the consistency of  repetitions with which a force acts upon objects.

As examples consider.  The force of gravity pulling the sand grains in an hour glass through the orifice at it's middle, at a constant rate.  The force of gravity acting upon the mass and against the inertia of a pendulum, resulting in the regular periods of it's oscillations.  The similar forces causing the Earth's motions that result in the time of day, time of year, year and so on.  The regularity of the periods of certain electric, molecular or atomic oscillations in modern chronometers, which are the results of forces.
.....................................................................
A period of time is defined by a pattern. 
A pattern is defined by the repetition of some change.
This regularity of repetition is determined by comparison to a standard.
A standard is a record of and from the past,
The past is time, as defined in the aspects of before and after.

Patterns of time as intervals are typically defined by the repetition of:

1. Change as the displacement of a mass in relationship to two positions (a before and an after),
2. Change in the direction of the displacement of a mass in relationship to two positions (a before and an after).
3. Comparison of   either of   or   both of  the above changes to a standard.
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The repetition of those patterns is in general, caused by a relationship that exists between the magnitude of a MASS and the magnitude of the energy as FORCE that gives rise to a magnitude of DISPLACEMENT of that mass and by which a magnitude of TIME is defined.

The magnitude of that MASS may be defined by:
   1. the magnitude of the time of the displacement of that mass
   2. the magnitude of the energy as force
   3. the magnitude of the displacement of that mass.

The magnitude of that energy as FORCE may be defined by:
   1. the magnitude of the time of the displacement of that mass
   2. the magnitude of the mass
   3. the magnitude of the displacement of that mass.

The magnitude of the DISPLACEMENT of that mass may be defined by:
   1. the magnitude of the energy as force
   2. the magnitude of the mass
   3. the magnitude of the time of the displacement of that mass

The magnitude of the TIME period of the displacement of that mass maybe defined by:
   1. the magnitude of the energy as force
   2. the magnitude of the mass
   3. the magnitude of the displacement of that mass

Given that...

A human body in this world, on earth (and / or plane if you will allow), is
experiencing events. 

CHANGES which occur and which we call an event, normally, or from
our own PERSPECTIVE in shared relative time, occur at some given
and various rate or rates.
... ... ... ... ...
Likewise our own neurological processing / experiencing of that event, is at
some given rate within a shared relative time.
... ... ... ... ...
Perceiving of events through physical organs (as a neurological processing )
will be within a context of the time frame during which that perception occurs.
... ... ... ... ...

But who can explain why there is a before and an after ?