Working SMOT ramp from Tom Ferko ?

[nwman]

Tom,

Not only because my curiosity is driving me wild but because everyone needs a second if not third opinion I would encourage you to maybe not post a video to all but perhaps a few to just act as sounding boards to make sure your not overlooking anything. I have worked with you a little in the past so I would be honored to review your findings but I would also recommend Stefan. I don't know if you read my other thread I started off of your work but I did reproduce your experiment that you had claimed worked in your first video. I found that your conclusion was wrong. Of course I'm hoping you have it this time.

Tim

[magnetman12003]

Hi Tim,

The experiment with one ring magnet worked in the very first video I posted in this thread.  It was very hard to set the proper distances of the rails to get it to work.  I fooled around for a long time with this before I got it right.

Gettting back to the latest motor development:

Do you or any other interested party have the 4.5 diameter ring magnets that are 1 inch thick and can be stacked to a 3 inch thickness ?   You will need 2 each of these stacked magnets and space them out on a turntable with North poles facing outwards.  The inside South Poles facng each other should be seperated by 6.5 inches.  The magnets should be securely mounted to the turntable.

In the exact center of this Lazy susan turntable with magnets mounted on it should be a V shape indentation to accomodate a pointed axle shaft end.


Make this turntable setup and show it on this site and I will show and tell you how to make and use the DRIVER MECHANISM which is much easier to construct.

You dont have to make that little wood triangle you see mounted to the turntable. It was used for an unsuccessful prior experiment.  Its not needed.


Tom

[nwman]

Tom,

I currently only have three of those 4.5" ring magnets. Strong suckers!

Did you see the video I posted where I reproduced your video experiment? I configured the rail as you described with the opposite poles at the front edges of the rails but this configuration only pulled the ring in to the start and then had no desire to travel past the start. They where most attracted to the start of the rails. The only way to remotely reproduce the results in your video would be to configure the rails as show in the picture below. However, there was a huge repelling force just up to the start of the first rail and once you get it past that it propels the magnet through and out. Your video shows you letting go of the ring magnet at the same point when I let go in the video and it rolls through the rails. This is after the initial repulsion zone. I found that if you move the magnet far enough away from the rail so the repulsion is weak enough to let it roll past then the attraction is also too weak to pull the ring magnets forward. I am working on a few good ideas that should get around this problem but I am waiting until I have a firm idea what I am working with. The video I did is posted below.

Tim

[CLaNZeR]

Do you or any other interested party have the 4.5 diameter ring magnets that are 1 inch thick and can be stacked to a 3 inch thickness ?   You will need 2 each of these stacked magnets and space them out on a turntable with North poles facing outwards.  The inside South Poles facng each other should be seperated by 6.5 inches.  The magnets should be securely mounted to the turntable.

Hi Tom

Can we scale this down and use smaller Ring Magnets as no idea where to get those 4.5 inch magnets from in the UK.

Regards

Sean.

[magnetman12003]

Hi Tim and Sean,

The stagger track setup is real touchy and takes a while to get it going correctly.

I have decided to post all I know about my recent motor discovery and let everyone run with it.   Keep in mind as I stated before it requires two fingers to keep it running steadily.  A small cylinder or cone is still needed to make this a hands off motor.  Thats where many good minds can improve the basic concept.

A lot more is going to follow.

Tom