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Probality of God

Started by Newton II, September 14, 2012, 01:33:36 AM

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lumen

People have a belief ingrained into them from friends and family and to go against such a belief is a pain in your heart even if you knew they were wrong, so the belief continues on with a hope that you may be the one that is wrong until the day come when you yourself believe also.

People can argue about a concept, or debate a theory, but only an unfounded belief is worth killing for!


eatenbyagrue

Quote from: WilbyInebriated on September 15, 2012, 10:43:17 AM
if complex things need a creator tito the clown... then who created your creator?


That one is easy, it's turtles all the way down.


Anyway, arguing with theists is like shooting fish in a barrel.  Why bother?

WilbyInebriated

Quote from: eatenbyagrue on September 15, 2012, 10:59:14 AM
Anyway, arguing with theists is like shooting fish in a barrel.  Why bother?
to defend and uphold logic and reason... do you have a problem with that?

because religious communities are consistent offenders and consistently affect people in rationally and morally indefensible ways...

furthermore, our excusing of the unreason that we call religion/gawd has opened the floodgates for either types for other opportunistic attempts to exploit people’s trustworthiness and “openmindedness” â€" e.g., the cult of scientology, homeopathy, psychics, overunity and so on.
There is no news. There's the truth of the signal. What I see. And, there's the puppet theater...
the Parliament jesters foist on the somnambulant public.  - Mr. Universe

vineet_kiran

Quote from: WilbyInebriated on September 15, 2012, 11:05:10 AM
to defend and uphold logic and reason... do you have a problem with that?





Logic and reason, laws of physics thmeselves point towards existance of God.


Logic is like this :


1)  Mass cannot be created  -  Then this  universe cannot be real

2)  This universe is real   -  Then mass can be  created 



Either   No.(1)  has to be true or No(2) has to be true.  Both  cannot be true or false at the same time.   



If  science says that mass cannot be created then it has to accept that the existing universe is not real and it is just an illusion created by GOD

If science says that this universal is real ( made of protons, neutrons, elecrons, nutrinos, quarks  and other bullshit things)  then it has to accept that mass can be created.


But the science as we know neither accepts that the universe is illusion nor it accepts that mass can be created which are contradictory from the logical view point.


Vineet.K.








lumen

Quote from: vineet_kiran on September 15, 2012, 01:14:47 PM


Logic and reason, laws of physics thmeselves point towards existance of God.


Logic is like this :


1)  Mass cannot be created  -  Then this  universe cannot be real

2)  This universe is real   -  Then mass can be  created 



Either   No.(1)  has to be true or No(2) has to be true.  Both  cannot be true or false at the same time.   



If  science says that mass cannot be created then it has to accept that the existing universe is not real and it is just an illusion created by GOD

If science says that this universal is real ( made of protons, neutrons, elecrons, nutrinos, quarks  and other bullshit things)  then it has to accept that mass can be created.


But the science as we know neither accepts that the universe is illusion nor it accepts that mass can be created which are contradictory from the logical view point.


Vineet.K.

Fact! Mass can be created from energy, and can be created by man, so using your own logic, man is a God!

Well, then there is point two: Because the universe is infinite and mass was created from energy, it took infinite energy to create and this used up all Gods energy.

You can certainly see that a simple belief based on nothing but.... well belief, is so hard to change because there is no proof to cause change and even when life is found on other planets people will just change the story like all religions do to fit the bill and keep them believing.

Cool!