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Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY

Started by 27Bubba, September 18, 2012, 02:17:22 PM

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TinselKoala

@Itsu: Actually, for the best accuracy the scope's horizontal timebase should be set to provide _many_ cycles falling between the middle 8 major divisions on the scope. As many as you can count comfortably. Analog scopes will always have a little distortion -- if you look carefully, a signal of constant frequency will look a bit "squeezed" in the very center and a bit "expanded" on the left and right edges. Using the middle 8 graticule markers, and filling those 8 divisions with as many cycles as can be easily counted, will minimize errors caused by this non-linearity and also by the "estimating" of partial cycles.

@Nick: To make it easier to calculate, please use the horizontal Position control to place a peak, or a zero-crossing, _exactly_ on the second graticule line from the left.

This is really an easy computation to make. There is no need to use some web-based calculator that works only on a single cycle. It is just a matter of counting how many cycles appear in how much time.  Hz = Cycles per second, and "per" means division.   So for example if you have 18 full cycles PER 4 microseconds, that is 18/0.000004 = 4500000 cycles per second, or 4.5 MHz.  Or, as in this case, I see 7.1 or perhaps a tiny bit less cycles in 8 divisions (8 x 0.5 us/div) or 4 microseconds, so 7.1 / 0.000004 = 1775000 Hz or about 1.78 MHz. 

TinselKoala

Yes, any demonstration that uses bulb brightness should have some actual measurement of brightness to go by. I don't have a good lightmeter myself, but I'm trying to find one that's suitable. These from Ebay are very cheap, I haven't tried them, but they are probably better than nothing (or eyeballs/cameras).

http://www.ebay.com/itm/High-Accurate-200-000-Lux-Digital-Light-Meter-Tester-Photometer-Luxmeter-HS1010-/201135677970

I'd like to get one of these for general purpose use:
http://www.extech.com/instruments/product.asp?catid=10&prodid=55  (this one's a little over 100 dollars US--- and probably contains much the same circuit and sensor as the 14 dollar EBay one....    ???

They can get pretty expensive:
http://www.extech.com/instruments/product.asp?catid=10&prodid=64


AlienGrey


Quote from: TinselKoala on September 20, 2015, 11:05:27 AM
Yes, any demonstration that uses bulb brightness should have some actual measurement of brightness to go by. I don't have a good lightmeter myself, but I'm trying to find one that's suitable. These from Ebay are very cheap, I haven't tried them, but they are probably better than nothing (or eyeballs/cameras).

http://www.ebay.com/itm/High-Accurate-200-000-Lux-Digital-Light-Meter-Tester-Photometer-Luxmeter-HS1010-/201135677970

I'd like to get one of these for general purpose use:
http://www.extech.com/instruments/product.asp?catid=10&prodid=55  (this one's a little over 100 dollars US--- and probably contains much the same circuit and sensor as the 14 dollar EBay one....    ???

They can get pretty expensive:
http://www.extech.com/instruments/product.asp?catid=10&prodid=64

Have you tried Maplins ?

AlienGrey

Quote from: GeoFusion on September 19, 2015, 08:41:46 PM
Will post this  one more time.
Seems most have just bypassed my very last post except Hoppy's attention towards it

See how the effect works and how he lets the arc take place at the 1000W halogen.
Almost at the very end of the vid you'll see it.
Yet the entire vid is valuable how he puts different loads and see how it works.
but what is most important here to see is when
a Kacher / Tesla coil Radient RF Arcs at the lamp, that is RF Radiant HV arcing with amps in sync!
Very hot and visible to see how bright it gets when it arcs and flashes.
Same as Ruslan's latest 4kW demonstration when he tries to connect the other 2KW load to the system
you can see how it heavily arcs while trying to fit the wire to the connections.  Urfa sanli has the same arcing.
That is the result that has to be achieved! that is it. This Works! don't you all see it!?
Yet in the vid of Urfa there is no loopback/feedback part. it's just to show how he gets the effect.
Very important Vid here :-\

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeJfRlvUU2A&feature

Trying to point out Valuable stuff here, not here to play games.

All the information is on the net how and yet alot of tempered information too.
But some ppl try to help many get the right ones for them to continue on with the work.
   Cheerz~

Nice device, it looks nothing like any of the devices i have seen on here, has any one got any information on the circuits and coil winding information ?  ;)  PS any one see the scrap Katcher Grenade device under the bench ;)

itsu

Quote from: TinselKoala on September 20, 2015, 10:54:14 AM
@Itsu: Actually, for the best accuracy the scope's horizontal timebase should be set to provide _many_ cycles falling between the middle 8 major divisions on the scope. As many as you can count comfortably. Analog scopes will always have a little distortion -- if you look carefully, a signal of constant frequency will look a bit "squeezed" in the very center and a bit "expanded" on the left and right edges. Using the middle 8 graticule markers, and filling those 8 divisions with as many cycles as can be easily counted, will minimize errors caused by this non-linearity and also by the "estimating" of partial cycles.

@Nick: To make it easier to calculate, please use the horizontal Position control to place a peak, or a zero-crossing, _exactly_ on the second graticule line from the left.

This is really an easy computation to make. There is no need to use some web-based calculator that works only on a single cycle. It is just a matter of counting how many cycles appear in how much time.  Hz = Cycles per second, and "per" means division.   So for example if you have 18 full cycles PER 4 microseconds, that is 18/0.000004 = 4500000 cycles per second, or 4.5 MHz.  Or, as in this case, I see 7.1 or perhaps a tiny bit less cycles in 8 divisions (8 x 0.5 us/div) or 4 microseconds, so 7.1 / 0.000004 = 1775000 Hz or about 1.78 MHz.

Right, i did not know about this distortion on analog scopes, but its logical when using a crt.
So then its better to use here many cycles over a longer stretch.
The better accuracy with less cycles that i was talking about was because you can better count the sections inbetween the
peaks, but then we need to have an undistorted scope picture in the first place.

Anyway, i guess Nick will know by now how to roughly calculate the frequency of his coils.

Regards itsu