Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

[antijon]

Hey guys.
Hanon, nice vid, a good example to learn from. So what you and marathonman (pleasure to meet you, marathonman) are saying is that:
1. There is a single inductor, and all three coils are mounted on it axially
2. Primary polarities oppose and vary in current
3. Most importantly, length of the inductor, as well as size of the secondary, must be sized properly to the frequency and amplitude of the primary current.

Hanon, what are your thoughts about the pic I uploaded showing the different arrangements of the coils? It does look like all the coils could be mounted axially, but it also appears that the inductor overlaps the secondary, ya?

[antijon]

http://youtu.be/-eTQ49RcFKM

Gotoluc's updated permanent magnet motor, showing the increase in motor strength with the addition of more flux paths. Haha, i think I just answered my own question, hanon.

[hanon]

Antijon,

The coil configuration that you posted before is from the last patent by Buforn, in 1914.

This patent is just an optimization over the original Figuera patent from 1908.

Buforn explains that this piled linear arragement is used to profit from both poles of each electromagnets

This CONFIRMS that the basic coil arragement is in a linear pattern with a pole without use, as the picture I uploaded previously.

Two variable field inductor electromagnets one in each side and one intermediate induced coil.

[Cadman]

Hi everyone,

Thank you for your thoughts about the magnetic polarity change.

This may be another design concern with the 1908 design.

In a normal self excited DC generator there is a relationship between the magnetic circuit and the number of ampere turns of the field coils. For instance the field coils may require 1532 turns of #22 AWG wire, 35.9 ohms, with 26 volts at 0.724 amps to deliver the necessary 1109 ampere turns at the generator's normal operating conditions. However, this is a constant 0.724 amps. With the Figuera commutator alternately increasing the current in one field coil while decreasing the current in the next coil, the net average between the two field coils will be half of the current available to the commutator, or 0.362 A. Correct? This would lower the ampere turns to 554.5 per coil and the generator would not work correctly.

Since the Figuera / Buforn design is self exciting and outputs AC current, the solution in my mind would be to use a small step up transformer ahead of the the rectifier to double the voltage and get the average current to the field coils up where it needs to be. The loss increase caused by the transformer would still be an insignificant portion of the generator output.

Do you think this an accurate overview of the situation and a viable solution? Or am I looking at this all wrong.

Regards

[antijon]

Hey Cadman. I don't think that modification would be necessary, and here's why. If you look at the photo that Marathonman posted, you see the fields "breaking out" at the center of the output coil. Now if the action that produces output is based on that "breaking out" point sweeping through the coil, then the amp-turns aren't as critical.

My initial thoughts about the Figuera generator was some special phase/transformer action, something that produced some special output. But like you said, under normal conditions and effects, it won't produce good output. So I've been trying to wrap my head around the actual action, the method that produces the effect. If you watched Gotoluc's videos, you'll see what it is. Like Marathonman's photo, it's the sweeping field that produces current.

To simplify the action, you need two like poles "breaking-out" at the center of the output coil. Then you move it back and forth. I've attached the circuit that I tried last night on my dual-primary transformer. The two primaries are arranged with like-poles facing each other. The purpose of the resistor is to provide a constant current to both coils. As the center-tapped transformer goes through 180 degrees, it produces the sweeping effect. As it is shown, this did produce more output than if the two primaries were simply wired in series and fed AC from the transformer..

In my opinion, the action is incredibly simple. It can be produced in many ways. Say, with two permanent magnets, like poles facing, and two primaries being fed AC. Or with two DC coils and two AC coils.