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Overunity Machines Forum



Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

Started by bajac, October 07, 2012, 06:21:28 PM

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Doug1

Tesla's magnetic rectifier Pat 413353 You have to use a bit of your own mind to rework it into other types of arrangements of core and coils after you really understand how it works.

antijon

Hey guys, this is Jon, glad to see this thread still alive. I'll try to read through the thread later, but I'm guessing that no one came up with a viable generator design yet?

If I may, I wanted to remind everyone that multiple primary coils multiplies the output. I made some youtube videos about this, and got a lot of views, but I don't think many people understand that this is probably very important... kind of like an unknown rule of electromagnetism. After a busy summer, and refinancing and other things, I'm going to start working on this project again, but for now, I'll just weigh in.

The commutator and switching isn't as important as the electromagnets, and the "soft" iron core isn't that important either. The commutator was powered by DC, or a battery, which is the only way he could make it self-looped. The output was pulsed DC, which at that time could power every motor and lightbulb around (which was the only electrical devices they had anyway).

I'm using an image from this guy: http://www.eeweb.com/blog/clarence_alucho/a-flash-from-the-past-figueras-generator because my new computer doesn't have any of the stuff from my old one.

In the image:
1. Both primaries are wired N + N up, not N + S.
2. The commutator, fed by DC, produces two DC peaks that are 90 degrees out of phase. This means that as the commutator sweeps through the middle, both coils are at half of the full voltage. So if we have 12V input, it would be like this: Coil 1 is 12V then drops while coil 2 increases from 0V. In the middle, both coils are at 6V, and at the other side of the commutator, coil 1 is 0V and coil 2 is 12V.
3. The secondary sees the flux of both coils. So, if the secondary had a winding ratio of 2:1 with the primaries, we would see this voltage output: 12V out when coil 1 is 12V, when the commutator sweeps the middle, 24V out, then when coil 2 is 12V, the output is again 12V. So it's 12V out with a 24V pulse, DC.
The output Figuera generated was a pulsed DC with a DC bias. The winding ratios can be changed, but the principle he used was similar to his other patents, a DC generator. This type of generator doesn't exist today, but if the wire diameters are large (lower resistance), we're talking about a lot of current out... which is probably why it's described as "industrial". In a way, it's like magnetically saturating a large coil, then tricking it into producing DC. This principle could also be used to make a rotating generator quite easily.

But as I showed in my videos, AC can be used, too. The main principle is multiple inductors. I don't know why Faraday, or Edison, or even Tesla never realized this. It's like, if you sweep one magnet over a coil, it produces voltage. But if you sweep two magnets, same polarity, it produces twice the voltage. Twice the voltage means twice the power out for the same amount of sweeping. Even AC motors could benefit from this principle. If they were made with two stator coils side-byside instead of one (meaning a pole-face) the rotor would spin twice as fast. Even a typical AC generator could be redisgned to produce more power out, and possibly even power it's prime mover.

I don't want to stand on a soapbox here, but I just think this is that important.

Here's a link to the Platinum Invests', or whatever, generator video: https://youtu.be/2M89QnJaPY8

Please watch it. I know the magnet and coil configuration looks complex, but it's simply made to produce three-phase. The principle here is that they use multiple magnets that sweep over a coil at once. In the one at 6:10, even four magnets at a time. Increasing the number of magnets, or inductors, multiplies the power out.

Thanks for your time guys. I'll check in later

hanon

Hi Jon,
Nice to see you again. Could you provide the link to the videos you are referencing? Thanks in advance

About the link that you added it seems to be a divulgative blog. It is fine as an sketch, but IMHO the key in this generator is the placement and orientation of the coils. We really have doubts about aligning them or placing them perpendiculary , or parallel as this guy drew them in his blog.

If you check the last pages in the thread you will find a translation by Alvaro_CS of the last Buforn patent, where it seems to place the coils aligned

Also maybe you may check my post #2419 on the 21st of july, page 162 witb a simulation of the commutator and resistors
Regards

forest

You know what ? The amount of possible combinations is not that large. A team of experienced scientists with all support and tools and lab and money can crack it in few months. Yet nobody was interested in Figuera for more then 100 years. Very strange indeeed.

hanon

Because his patents were lost into the patent office archives until 2011.  Alpoma researched his story and published a historical report into a spanish magazine in january of 2011. These are by far the simplest generators and the patents are supposed to disclose almost all everything. I hope we are missing just some details