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Overunity Machines Forum



Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

Started by bajac, October 07, 2012, 06:21:28 PM

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marathonman


NRamaswami

Thanks Marathonman..Will do and ask you for detailed clarifications if needed.

Randy: Thanks for your kick on the butt.

Here is the thought process..(Repeat thought process but any one can do it now..it is so laughably simple)

I now do simulations by mind..probably how the old scientists invented back then..

The feedback system is so simple.

Let us look at a pulsed DC system for it is the easiest one to do.

Put a diode and then a lot of resistors in the form of 1 kgm coil of 32 AWG wire. You get lot of ohmic resistance. So Amperage drawn is low but voltage is high.

Air core coil. Divide the output of the coil in to two and power the two opposing electromagnets. Make the secondary in the center a smaller dia Iron core than primaries as I have shown in the pictures. The primary ends go to earth.  The primary wires are relatively thin wires and the secondary wires are thick wires. Make as many parallel primaries as are needed to ensure that the output from the secondary crosses the input voltage or if the amperage of output is high use a transformer to ensure that the transformer output is 220 volts .

The secondary is just opposite in phase with primary. Secondary Amperage and voltage higher than input. Primary input comes down with increased frequency. Resistance coil is a must for high voltage pulsed DC draws a lot of amperage unless the resistance value is high at low frequencies like 50 Hz or 60 Hz. This is not indicated by Core and Ignacio but I know it from personal experience.

The secondary once it reaches the primary input value needs to be connected back to primary input after the Diode but before the resistor. Part of secondary with a 220 volt rated metal oxide varistor will ensure that after the step up transformer. Secondary is also pulsed DC for primary is pulsed DC. Transformer changes the phase to match with primary. A neon lamp acting as a spark plug will not only reduce the amperage but will also increase frequency thus bringing down the input amperage even lower. This is only optional and we need not modify the frequency. If you want to show super duper high COP levels this can be used. But not necessary.

I repeat

We can use a capacitor to change the phase of secondary to match that of primary or use a transformer to ensure that the feedback input going back to the primary is just 220 volts and in phase with primary. 220 volt Metal Oxide Varistor will ensure this.

Figuera used an interruptted DC method at what frequency what voltage we do not know. I think that the coils of resistor just one is enough will take the inductive kickback or backemf and reduce the input (If my understanding of what Marathonman says is correct).

We do not need the complex commutator. Diode Bridge will work fine. Resistor coil is a must and without that it will not work for high voltage DC input obeys the V=IR rule. We can never expect to get the amperage down at higher voltage except by raising frequencies. But if we want to use a normal frequency the resistor coil is needed. This is not stated by Ignacio and Core has not conducted experiment with high voltage pulsed DC and I have done it and I know coils present no inductive impedance to pulsed DC and have only resistance value however you build the coil. I have not tested with spark plug to increase the frequency but all say that increasing the frequency will reduce the input amperage at primary and increase the secondary output..

The circuit is very simple. I will post it later in the day. I will use the big device I have to see if this can work. I think it should.

We just need to give the exciting current for a second. Then it is not needed any more and the system will work as Figuera says indefinitely. It is very cheap and can be made operational in any part of the world.

Electricity goes to the earth in one way and so earth current may not come back to the coils of primary. How it will act on backemf I do not know.

I need to test if this works and if it works we can put up a Video.

The device that I'm going to test will try to avoid the earth connection but the above is approximately what Tariel kapanadze video shows.

The spark plug only insures that the input frequency is high. Nothing more. It can be a Neon lamp simply. He uses an Air Core and a Tesla coil arrangement but I do not know about Tesla coils.

But otherwise the circuit is simple. 

Actually Core indicated this to me earlier but I could not understand his drawing. But Core has not experimented and so he has not included the Resistor coil. Figuera patent shows the resistor coil and this is what Marathonman says as inductive kickback capturing part of the Figuera device backemf. I think the resistance value ensures that the input value is low. But frankly I do not know if it is simple resistance or inductive kickback capture method. But it is correct that higher resistance will reduce the input amperage and can increase the primary voltage that enters the primary coils.

I ignore the NN or NS pole thing for both of them can be made to work. It is a single wire going to earth being divided in to two to make the primaries.

I will test this arrangement but I think others will do it faster than I do and post videos.

I hope that this helps..

Regards

Ramaswami

hanon

 I have some questions:

Variacs are designed to work with AC. Could Variacs work fine from a battery? I guess common Variacs will not work with DC.  Maybe you will need a high frequency AC source, then apply the Variac and get a modulated AC output which can be later rectified to get the proper signal (low frequency) to each series of electromagnets

The proposal for the need to feed back each electromagnet from the one that is collapsing: Is it a theory? or Have it been tested (and confirmed) with a prototype? I suppose that before saying that it is mandatory we should be cautious and verify it with a proper device. If it is just a theory it would be better to advice people that it is just a proposal. If not, please provide some info about the tests done, blocking and not blocking the reversal feeding toward the other series of electromagnets.

Also about the use or not of diodes, the only way to discard that design is testing it (with and without diodes) and see the difference. Maybe Figuera did not use diodes (because they were not still invented in that time) but this does not assure that diodes are forbidden. I saw with an scope the two output signals and they had the proper shape for exciting each series of electromagnets (I posted the picture) . I did not get results, but the signals were fine. Maybe it was for any other reason I donĀ“t know. It is better not to reject possibilities unless they had been tested properly.

Regards

batfish

For what it's worth, the following arrangement gives 2 pairs of inductors (one pair wired opposite to other to give same magnetic polarity) using A/C input with one diode for each pair. Others are likely to be able to test this configuration sooner than me.

Obviously this arrangement can be extended to give 2 sets of inductor pairs in series, each set wired in the opposite direction to the other.

Batfish


Batfish

NRamaswami

I do not understand the Henrys shown for inducyors but you all appear to be testing with very smLl input.
Diodes and diode bridges are ok ar 12 volts to 50 volts bit thry eill condume large amperages as the voltage goes up.

In the arrangement posted by Batfish one of them should be thin wires of high resistance and
another thick wire and this is nothing but Daniel McFarland Cook design.
AC is induced AC in the above circuit and not supplied. But this is the primary.
I apologise that I have not uploaded the simple circuit for Ramaswami device and will fo so tomorrow.
Whatever knowedge I get I have a religious voe t disclosebit.in full and I will do so. No hiding  any thing.