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Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

Started by bajac, October 07, 2012, 06:21:28 PM

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seaad

Quote from: hanon on April 14, 2016, 06:57:18 AM
Seead,
I see that you have simulated the DC reheostat proposed by marathonman.
But I see that you just got one signal and that signal has positive and negative parts. In Figuera generator we need two signals and just with positive part. Is it possible to achieve with the rheostat?
One more question: Is your simulation software simulating a toroidal core? I guess that a toroidal core will not behave identically to a bar core.

Hello hanon, NP , all
I have two input signals to the primarys, see the principle picture 'Figuera sim'.   And the pic 'LTSpice IV Figuera A2' shows the output signal. In Reply #3518

     That simulated DC rheostat proposed by marathon man is not a DC rheostat. It is an AC 'contraption', L:s with its r:s. And I assumed with an iron core! Acting as a transformer with multiple windings.
(But the simulator can only handle three, windings together, the three horizontal smaller rings)

See the green curve pic 'LTSpice IV Figuera A3';  Signal going to the right Primary . (The pic-up point is slightly filtrered , to cut the huge kV- spikes in sight in the graph.)

The signal going to the left Primary (Not shown here) is equivalent but with a 180 deg.(time) offset.       Red curve is the output across the Output resistor (100 ohm). Always swinging around the zero line !

The smaller pic.(A4) shows the marathon man 'contraption' whithout iron core, only the three coils with its internal resistance (7, 20,7 ohm). No coupling between the coils.

The smaller pic.(A5) with  three pure resistances (7,20,7 ohm) instead of coils.

The input signal to the primary windings goes always below the zero line independent of the type of 'rheostat'!    So help me God  :'(    And the efficiency always below 40%!     :'( :'( :'(
The DC simulating batt. voltage to all pic,s = 24V

I don't think the simulator know if the core is round. I haven't asked.. Lol
But slightly different (magnetical) coupling between the different windings is possible to define and I have used this possibility here.

I hope that the (dB/dt) overcomes the lost 60% in reality and additionally creates eaven more OU.  But my simulator don't know anything about (dB/dt).

marathonman

 "That simulated DC rheostat proposed by marathon man is not a DC rheostat. It is an AC 'contraption"

WRONG ANSWER!
and it is not simulated at all it is what Figuera used in his device. you can use all the simulators you want, none of them will simulate Figuera's part G because NONE of them are coded with all the proper parameters.

continuously rotating Rheostat that uses Reluctance to control currant in DC form, plain and simple.

Good luck all the same.

nul-points

That's an amazing amount of work seaad!    i know it's disappointing that the Efficiency is generally so much under unuty, but it's interesting to see how different even those particular 3 approaches perform (in prediction).  Nice to see that the waveform is coming out much as expected though.  Does the logic circuit include the 'make-before-break' action of Figuera's commutator G?   (Just wondering about those voltage spikes)

Thanks for doing all this 'programming' of the Sim & for sharing the results   ...it takes an eagle-eye for detail!  ;-)

all the best
np
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hanon

What we know from Figuera patent is what it is written there: he just explains the use of a system of resistors to modulate the current to each set of electromagnets. The rest is our interpretation. I reiterate that IMO the real important idea is to move the magnetic fields back and forth in opposition, no matters the method you use to do it.

Some methods will be more efficient than others, but I think that when producing 20,000 watts you won't have to worry much if you are wasting some energy to excite the electromagnets. At my current degree of advance , I am now more concerned with using the simplest method to power the inducers that some more complicated devices. Also I do not have the ability to built mechanical devices. I understand that some people are now going for others methods.

NRamaswami

It was common for earlier patents not to disclose some material parts as trade secrets. I do believe that Figuera has omitted one part. This was permissible at that time. No one is able to do Daniel McFarland Cook device. The only time Figuera device produces COP>1 is when the core is saturated. Not otherwise. Or as Iganico has indicated that the secondary was connected to capacitors in series to increase the amperage. This is some thing I have not tested. I think the presence of resistors shows that it is either interruptted DC or pulsed DC as it will result in increased voltage to the primaries boosting the output. But it is only my idea why resistors are justified.