Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

[hanon]

Hi,

I post below a couple of videos about the test suggested by Marathonman

A) Straight core with 30 turns of wire powered with DC. Touching at different points of the coil does not change the light intensity of each lightbulb. This simple test does not work powering with DC in a static wiring scheme.

https://vimeo.com/178144784



B) One Variac powered with DC. I used a variac (or autotransformer) to power two lightbulbs designed for 12 volts and 5 W from a 12 volts battery. This method works to regulate the intensity of each lightbulb in opposite way. But I have noted that this method presents a complex dynamic response: it seems that two effects are acting simultaneously. One effect acts very quicly to change the intensity. A second effect seem to react a bit slower that the first effect and it rebalances the final intensity to each lightbulb. You may only note this second effect when moving slowly the roll in the variac, when you stop there is a second action changing the light intensity after some tenths of second. If you move quickly the roll back and forth there is not enough time to see this second effect. In summary the dynamic response seems to be quite complex, maybe because of different magnetic fields fighting into the toroidal core. Only using about 1/4 of the total variac length I got a total regulation of the light intensity between the maximun light intensity and almost zero light intensity.

https://vimeo.com/178144785

Any suggestion?

[forest]

By DC do you mean steady battery power or rectified by diode bridge AC or maybe pulsed like with one diode rectification?

[darediamond]

Direct Current allows for Zero Balance PULSING but cannot on it own Oscillate

Alternate Current allows for Non Zero Balance PULSING  but CAN on it own Oscillate.

The application of the Former by Figuera in his time necessitated the need for mechanical Inverter in the name Of "Part G"

With Alternate Current, you can easily create Continuous Reversible Motional Movement Of Polarised Current and thereby making a Motionless Motor.

But with Direct Current without any aid, THIS IS NOT POSSIBLY AS THE POLARITY HERE REMAINS NON- REVERSIBLE .

So Witt AC , you generate No Back E.M.F but with D.C, you will get back emf.

Thus in to create a True Non-Back E.M.F oriented Oscillation, you use Alternate Current.

This is what Figuera achieved with his "Part G" mechanical  Inverter.

But why must you use  AC in Figuera Device?

The answer stems from the Motionles Motor Generator Principle.

How?

The Rule of Magnetism says Like Poles Repel and Unlike Poles Attract.

The South Pole Flux of any Magnet always Flow to the North. This Creates constant one way attraction.

Now in Figuera Gen, primarily there 2 Electromagnets which acts as Primaries and One Intermidiary Winding which is the Secondary.

When Powered, Electromagnet also generates North Pole and South Pole.

With AC, the poles will be alternating but with DC the Poles will remain constant.

So if you place 2 electromagnets in a positive opposing fashion and Power them with DC you will get non-alternating Attraction. If you place 2 electromagnets in  negative opposing fashich.and power them with DC, you will get non-alternating Repulsion.

So in each case, there will  be No PRODUCTIVE SWITCHING OF CURRENT.

The application of AC will cause a reverse results as it Will allow for Alternate Switch in both modes.
But the Mode we need is the Attraction Mode not Repulsion Mode because YOU CAN NOT KILL THE DIPOLE AND EXPECT ANY USEFUL OUTPUT.

NO YOU CAN NOT.

Now  having get to know what is the correct type of current to apply, how then can you wind your coils to get North South North South and South North South North polarities at each Cycle of the applied Alternate Current at each Cycle?

Wind Both Primary Electromagnet in either Clockwise or Anticlockwise direction and CONNECT THERE LEADS IN PARALLEL. YOU MUST NEVER BUCK THE PRIMARIES CONNECTION WHEN YOU WIND THEM IN SERIES I.e start to end and start to end.

When you connect wind and connect them this way, once powered with AC, there be continuous Additive Power Of Polarity Switching and thus an Alternating Motionles Motional Motor will be achieved. This will have a Greater Power Generation Ability on The Central Secondary Winding in between the Additive Power Alternating Poles.

If Direct Current is Applied here, the Output will be low because there is no CORRECT To and Fro moment of Current.

Now how do you overcome Lenz in the Secondary?

Simple Split the Secondary Winding into 2 and Wind one part In Clockwise and The other Part in Anti-Clockwise Direction and connect there leads in series. This Bucks the Output and thus Negate Lenz.

Have got to know the forgoing, how then do you make the Set Up A Self-Runner?

You must utilise a Super Capacitor Powered Variable Frequency Pure Sine Wave Inverter.

The Rule is: Once Lenz get negated in a Motor/Generator, just increase the frequency of the Engine to further reduce the starting and Running current that would be needed by the Primaries and the Secondary will start generating enormous amount of Current in at least 10 fold of the input current.

You wanna go Offgrid? Then you must make your own Inverter.

The essence of Powering your inverter with Supercaps lies in the ability of the Caps to store enormous amount of Current and simultaneously getting recharged while getting discharged.

Ensure you drive your Primaries at High Frequency to keep the start and Running Wattage below 250W.
You do not have worry about building variable frequency inverter driver.Get one for yourself here
http://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?catId=0&initiative_id=SB_20160809220635&SearchText=inverter+driver+board
Get someone in your localty to make center tapped transformer for you and buy high current Mosfet like IFP3205 to use with your readymade Inverter Drivers and CenterTapped Transformer.

You need to make AXIAL HANDRAND CRANK PERMANENT MAGNET GENERATOR WHICH YOU NEED TO ALWAYS USE TO CHARGE YOUR SUPERCAP BANK TO KICKSTART YOUR FIGUERA GEN.

FORGET BATTERIES. BUY MAXWELL SUPERCAP OF 3000F 2.7v  X 10pieces and connect them in series to achieve 27V 300F. Your Inverter must be 12v rated inverter so that your super cap bank will be getting discharge at lower voltage via a dc to dc 300W step down converter ot Transformer and it will be getting charged at 24V or 26V using an AC to DC Converter.

Remember, internal resistance of SuperCaps are very low so they get charged quickly and remained charged without blowing up provided you do not exceed there voltage rating unlike batteries.

Just make sure youndrive your primaries at high frequency to reduce the input wattage.

Use Twisted Serially Connected Multistrance Wire to make your primaries to generate extremely high FLux and move that Big Flux rapidly over your thick gauge wound bucking secondary to generate Massive Lenzless Current.

Youbcan also wind Bucking Secondaries under Each Primaries. There output will be lenzless too as long as you follow the winding and connection of leads rules.

Goodluck.

Do not use thin wire to Wind the Secondary. USE MUST USE VERY THICK WIRE.

[NRamaswami]

Reply #3848 on: August 05, 2016, 12:17:09 AM »
Marathon Man
#3811 on: July 28, 2016, 11:54:32 PM » You said you would PM me regarding methods you use for your 20KW unit. Great! How do you go about that? Unless you have some other method you can use my email...  briceelectric@yahoo.com.

Thanks in advance for your help.
Sam

Considering that Marathon Man has not yet replied to my request for information about his methods for producing a 20 KW Figuera device weighing about 120 pounds, I created a spreadsheet (attached) for designing a Figuera single phase power section. The results show a unit that is much larger than Marathon Man's. It has been explained to me previously that I really don't know what I am doing, so I would appreciate forum members looking this over, pointing out my errors, and showing me how to correct them, as I want to get this right.

Thanks in advance for your help.
Sam

Mr. Sam6

I'm not technically competent to write this. Since you have asked for sharing the knowledge I write this but request you to understand my lack of knowledge but hands on practical approach.

In my opinion the calculations are not correct. They calculations appear to be based on Theory and what can be done and what should not be done. This is dead wrong.

See I did not know that air gaps in the core are inefficient. So we had air holes.

I did not know that we need to very tightly pack or otherwise the iron will scream. So to avoid scraming of the iron we had to pack them as tightly as possible but we had still air gaps.

Air gaps led the inefficient operation of the device. But you see the air gaps also resulted in air from the surrounding moving in to cool the heated iron always and net result is a flow of ionized air in to the core.

We did not know that we cannot operate beyond 1.2 Tesla or 1.3 Tesla for a magnetic core ( solid core here and not core with air holes). So we went on to provide increaesd current or turns of wire until the screaming of the iron is high and the iron is heated.

At these ranges I would later calculate and learn that we are crossing easily 5 Tesla ranges. See it was an inefficient air gap filled core that enabled this to work. Otherwise the iron would have melted and wire would have burnt out. But for the way we built the core the operation was not safe.

You are showing a Ampere turns curve for different materials and we were there at the top saturated position. Mr. EMJunkie has indicated in a saturated core the differences between frequencies of wires disappear and wires behave only as resistors and would end up burning on the device. Wires also got heated but did not burn up for the simple reason air was always flowing in from the outside to the inside. We had a continous high stream of ionized air in to the core.

Mr. Patrick Kelly has earlier calculated using some University Chart that the curve reaches the saturation for Soft iron at 3.6 Tesla. I felt that it is more like 2.9 Tesla is sufficient but what has happened is that the core was able to consume the current up to easily 5 Tesla. The central core was screaming so much that we stopped the tests and had to reduce the current.

How do we reduce the current..Connect in parallel current consumed increases and connect in series the current consumed reduces. When current is reduced for the same number of turns the magnetic field is also reduced and is brought in to the safe range.

I have repeatedly tested and found only when the core is saturated COP>1 results occur. Theory agrees as at that range wire works only like a resistor.

Thicker the wire lower the resistance and lower the resistance greater is the current and voltage induced in secondaries.

Your calculations appear to be based on theories. There is nothing wrong in that approach but you need to check if the theory can be knocked out by experimental verification by changing the parameters of the theoretical calculations. If the parameters are changed would the theory still hold good or the theory must be varied for the varied parameter is an experimental observation to be made. I'm told that this is based primarily on how the iron material molecules arrange themselves at different conditions and for the same soft iron sourced from one place the results can be one and for another soft iron batch sourced from different area results can be different for the inner molecular structures of the material can easily change and composition can easily change.

Let me admit it. I have no competence to discuss or say all these things except for the fact that I inadvertendly and without any knowledge made a different type of core. In my opinion the core shape and the air holes and the high saturation of the core contributed. In the opinion of another learned person it was the material and the inner changes that happened at high saturation points that contributed to results.

I have tried to stick to safety norms and it was always cop<1 as long as safety norms are followed.

It is actually the lack of knowledge of magnetism and our lack of knowledge of what is a safe procedure and what is not and what is an efficient core structure and what is not that led to our observations.

I believe that your assumptions are wrong. You need to test, verify until the iron screams so much and tells you to reduce the input current that you can go up. Solid cores will easily cause very high heating.

It is a fact observed by us that air gaps reduce the efficiency of operations. But Air gaps are needed to operate at high core saturations. The core is saturated heated but is safe to operate. I see a lack of attempt here by sticking to what can be done and what should not be done.

Unless you experiment, vary the theoretical parameters and ignore them and experiment, observe and verify and validate what is safe and how safety can be increased to reach core saturation all these theoretical calculations would not lead any successful results.

Again the knowledge of how magnets operate appear to be very strictly restricted and Research and Development for Magnetism as far as I have found is zero in India. But whether you get funding or not also depends on whether you follow safety protocols laid down or not. Therefore I do not and would not say that only this would work and this would not work. We do not realize how shapes operate to focus magnetic fields and how the magnetic fields respond and how the electricity is generated from such different types and shapes of magnetic fields.

To admit it openly we were kind of idiots without any knowledge. So we just played around but I invested my own money.

Since we did not know that this should not be done we did them all. We actually varied the parameters laid down in protocols for safe operation and violated them happilly. That is the reason for the results we saw.

The results can be easily reproduced but we do not know if the large magnetic fields that are open and that let air to get ionized air affect our health. Except for me others appear to be not affected. I'm 53 now and probably the middle age and sedantary work style and long hours of work caused the health problems to me. But I do not want to do these things for I do know now what is safe and what is not. When you are told that some thing is not safe you are not going to do it.

Current needs to flow in in helical coils and when the wire becomes a resistor and is heated the current drawn will come down and so how to use the maximum safety and generate a large and saturated core is the essence of the project. I do not know if you have calculated for 3+ Tesla ranges to be achieved in the core. If you did not the calculations are not valid.

Please let me again admit that I'm technically not qualified to post this but this is what we practically observed. I have posted this info so you can avoid all this to be relearnt.  But please understand that I'm not asking you to do any experiment and you take responsibility for the experiments yourself and please also understand that the device as per safety norms is not safe to operate.

Regards,

Ramaswami

[marathonman]

Hanon;

Very good video presentation. it clearly shows that movement (frequency generation) is why Figuera chose his rotating part G.  varying inductive reactance  is definitely taking place here. so the movement of the brush or movement with transistors in make before break  set up is the way to go. he chose DC so he didn't have to deal with phase bs of AC and DC allowed for highly efficient electromagnets as opposed to AC.

it also told us that very few winding's are required to get this variation and that a straight core can be implemented as long as there is movement. so try your staight core again but with movement. might need to change wire though. ie. magnet wire with top sanded.
i will pm to discuss further.

very good, good work.

Sam; if your material you are using has a flux density of 21,500 (hypothetically) then do not go over about 19,500 - 20,000 as this will just be a waste of power. if you keep your operation no higher than the knee of the curve you will be just fine. if you so chose to except other advice and operate at a much higher saturation you will risk overheating of your primary elctromagnets. just remember each primary is only accountable for half the pressure required for your secondary output.

MM