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Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

Started by bajac, October 07, 2012, 06:21:28 PM

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Doug1

Alvero
  Looks like a nice place to live,very peaceful. Im not one for city living but I could be happy on the Savanna with no problem. I hope yours never gets spoiled by tourists. We get a lot of them here and I have to say I don't care for them too much.

Doug1

Forgot one thing.The third segment of lead, how ells would it go back to the origin? Make yourself a model of batteries.Small objects all the same so you can visualize the system. writing the values down as you go round the circuit. Paper tends to run out of room too fast. Have you ever come across a book on the net called "Dynamo electric Machinery A Manual for Students of Electrotechnics." It might help to see things from the perspective of what was taught during the proper time period.By Silvanus Phillips Thompson Dated 1888. Google has a downloadable copy.

hanon

 
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Originally Posted by Ufopolitics

Nikola Tesla utilized a "Radial" Wound Coils Geometry...where wires travel from one end to other end of the total Armature Diameter. We utilize "Axial" Wound Coils in most of all our Electrodynamic Machines...where Coils are wound in the Outer Periphery of the Armature Structure.

About Figuera´s patent with a rotary winding (No. 30376):

I am almost sure that Figuera in his rotary drum patent used radial windings. I am afraid that using axial windings will not get the same results: with an axial winding the induced magnetic field will be opposed to the induced field. With a radial winding in Figuera´s machine the induced magnetic field will be at right angle to the inducer field, IMHO.


According to the winding proposed by Bajac (posted some weeks ago) the Figuera patent 30376 should have a wire between two poles, then it crosses diametraly the drum, passes between the other two poles in the other side and again crosses diametraly the rotating drum. With this winding you get an  induced magnetic field which is at 90º of the inducer magnetic field. Therefore no Lenz Law is reflecting back to the inducer coils. ( I think - if I have interpreted fine that document-)

Here I  post an schematic for implementing the Figuera´s rotating drum winding for patent 30376 that I think that it has some advantages over a standard winding as drawn in simple form in the original patent. It may work with the same magnet polarity all around the external side. It is a winding with an "8" shaped coil in each turn. It creates two induced magnetic fields, B1 and B2,  with opposite directions. As each semi-turn has different induced polarities then those two field maybe can go in a circle around the central hole without affecting the inducer electromagnets.

What do you think?

Doug1

It's an interesting winding concept. Im not sure about how it will react to the otter section of the device. Or if the induced field will not simply attempt to complete the magnetic loop by diving into the left or right part of the cross. If it did ,it would be very uneven in it's field strength.The strongest field or greatest amount of force being in the corners and less at the extremedies giving a voltage difference with in the turns themselves. Then would generate a lot of heat. Then you have to deal with getting all that wire through the central hole for all four posts without damage to the insulation of the wire. That's a pretty tall order. While it may work well for a single drum shape of a rotor I dont think it will be as effective for a compound of four drums connected together as a cross.JMO

hanon

Hi all,

About the discoveries done by Clemente Figuera in 1902 the New York Times published the 9th of June of 1902 (link):

"His inventions comprise a generator a motor and a sort of governor or regulator"

Figuera in 1902 patented two devices:

       -A motionless generator   (patent 30378)
       -A rotary drum generator  (patent 30376)

If the description by the NY Times is right then Figuera used a motor. Then it is possible that the device that Figuera showed to the journalist is the one which needed a motor to rotate the drum. If so, we can think about the two devices patented by Figuera in 1902 that the one which was built and operated was his rotary drum generator with 3 parts:

    1- A generator:  the rotary drum and the electromagnets
    2- A motor: a small motor used to rotate the drum
    3- A governor: ??

Maybe the motionless generator (patent 30378) was just a theoretical extrapolation of his working rotary drum generator, which was actually the device that Figuera built.

Regards

PS:  Doug, we have to remember that the winding used by Figuera was the standard square diametrical winding. The "8" shape coil winding is just a proposal. I think that, as a first step, the winding to be replicated is the one used by Figuera.