Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

[IMIGHTKNOW]

Also if the 2 inducers are, say NN poles facing, the resulting consequent poles between them are a double SS. This has been known since the 1800s.

Oh and one more thing, please stop using solid cores. It's self defeating.

Poles are only NN and double SS only of both are powered up at the same time. Figuera did not do this. one rising one falling and vice verse so statement doesn't apply making the graph posted valid.

Primaries can be solid cores because they never reverse only rise and fall. Secondary on the other hand is subjected to AC so yes solid core would be a failure for sure for the secondary due to eddies.

Again no this is not a transformer because the electric field in a transformer do not line up like this switching does in the graph. It is an absolute fact that the Lenz will always be there but in my mind with this type of switching Figuera worked with the Lenz law not totally against it like in a standard generator.

A transformer shares it's load with two coils and so it would seem this device does not.

[Cadman]

floodrod, yes that's the way the individual coils would be constructed but the wiring between those two groups is anybody's guess.

IMIGHTKNOW, varying the magnetic field through the core will induce eddy currents, it doesn't have to reverse polarities.

@all
You guys see why I haven't tried to build one this way. The operation doesn't match any of the patents and it's way too complicated to operate. But it is the only way I can think of to duplicate Hanon's video device without physical movement.

That said, constructing the individual exciter coils with pies or rings connected in parallel like Doug1 said makes a lot of sense in order to have "a group of real electromagnets, properly built to develop the highest possible attractive force" and still have a short enough time constant to magnetize and demagnetize those electromagnets 30 to 100 times per second. He didn't have today's electrical steels, just soft iron.

Nowadays I'm leaning heavily towards patent 30378 as the way to go. It doesn't mention anything about commutators at all. And I can see strong analogies in this patent to the HES generators.

[floodrod]

Interesting-  but yes, hard build..

Couldn't the filling / emptying cycle be done with a rotor and 2 pickup coils?  If we use 2 coils sideways so they induct 1 way current when facing the magnets, we could offset 2 coils so the 2 separate DC pulses align exactly where 1 is at peak where the other is at bottom.  So when 1 grows, the other shrinks. And of course a pickup coil between the electromagnets.

[citfta]

For testing purposes there is an easier way to do that.  I just modified my circuit that I showed in the previous video.  All I did was put two diodes in one of the AC lines.  With them connected in parallel I connected the anode of diode to one side of one of my coils and connected the other diode with the cathode going to other coil and the opposite ends of my coils going back to the return of the AC source.  I go some interesting results.


Since my coils are now connected in parallel instead of series I got an increase in current which I expected.  My AC current is now 1.04 amps with the secondary unloaded.  And because my power supply is not well regulated in AC mode my voltage dropped to 15.9 volts.  However when I connected my 10 ohm 10 watt resistor across my secondary as my load the input current dropped!  The input current went from 1.04 amps down to 1.02 amps.  And my output is also slightly higher which is to be expected with each coil drawing more current than before.  My output across the 10 ohm resistor is now 2.99 volts for a calculated power of 895 milliwatts.  That compares to 812 milliwatts I showed in the video. 


If you do the calculations you will see that for an output from zero with no load to an output of 895 milliwatts my input dropped by 320 milliwatts.  If you remember from the video my input went up by 150 or so milliwatts for an output of 812 milliwatts but now by switching to halfwaves going to each coil my input goes DOWN by 320 milliwatts for a slightly greater output of 895 milliwatts.  So powering each coil with half wave power is a step in the right direction.  As you saw in the video my setup is pretty crude.  I need to get a longer core that goes all the way through all 3 coils and I need to experiment with different core material and I need to find a good source of clean AC power that has the frequency adjustable,  I believe a higher frequency would also give better results.  The AC from my power supply is just stepped down 60 Hz.  I also probably need to test using different input voltages.  Too many ideas and not enough time.


Carroll

[IMIGHTKNOW]

floodrod, yes that's the way the individual coils would be constructed but the wiring between those two groups is anybody's guess.

IMIGHTKNOW, varying the magnetic field through the core will induce eddy currents, it doesn't have to reverse polarities.

@all
You guys see why I haven't tried to build one this way. The operation doesn't match any of the patents and it's way too complicated to operate. But it is the only way I can think of to duplicate Hanon's video device without physical movement.

That said, constructing the individual exciter coils with pies or rings connected in parallel like Doug1 said makes a lot of sense in order to have "a group of real electromagnets, properly built to develop the highest possible attractive force" and still have a short enough time constant to magnetize and demagnetize those electromagnets 30 to 100 times per second. He didn't have today's electrical steels, just soft iron.

Nowadays I'm leaning heavily towards patent 30378 as the way to go. It doesn't mention anything about commutators at all. And I can see strong analogies in this patent to the HES generators.

I think it is a give in that being wound specifically as electromagnets necessitate multiple or sectional winding as to the fact that Part G controls current flow.

You contradict yourself again stating to me that eddies are still present then go on to state Figuera had soft iron cores. I am well aware there will be some eddies if the primaries are solid soft iron. My problem is apparently Figuera did not get your memo to not use it.  Primaries will attain the highest mag possible using soft iron in the primaries. Secondaries in the other hand NO!. Way to much eddies and Hysteresis. The problem with that is soft Iron is crazy expensive so that is definitely out.

I am stumped as to why you keep referring to someone that has built nothing. The reference to shifting the fields back and fourth are or were gotten from Doug posts and the patent. I have read his entire site and I am amazed as to why people think he adds anything extra that can not be found in the patent. I mean no disrespect what so ever but I agree with marathonman when we spoke through a PM on his site that he adds nothing new that is not on the table already. Again no disrespect intended!. I was even informed by him that Hanon has some of his Paint graphs that he made on his site which I do find hilarious to say that least given some people think he is so special. If he was so special in knowledge then why use someone else's material. Again no disrespect intended!.

All I am doing is gathering information I can then use a physics standpoint moving forward with that trying to minimize my own interpretation using real physics from that time period not the tainted physics of present day. I just acquired many old books on physics and magnetism from that time frame which so far corroborate Doug1 posts completely.

The whole idea of the patent as of my understanding is compressing the field lines then shifting those fields from side to side over the secondary which on a physics standpoint aligns the electric fields of the two electromagnets. My only real concern is just how is the secondary fed back into the system? The rest is guided by physics not hearsay, maybe's or what if's.

PS. Progressively altering the current flow to each set of electromagnets with no current interruption which will cause BEMF and field collapse.