Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

[NoMoreSlave]

hi Doug1,

Position A = If you slid the coil between the north and south magnets you would not cut any more or less lines of force. If you strengthened the or weakened the magnets the coil would not cut any more or less lines of force.The lines still thread through the coil just stronger or weaker.Best you could get is a piss poor transformer. The coil when rotated changes the amount of flux it cuts and the number of lines.Till it reaches position C and is now facing the other way and continues to turn and the effect is reversed. A and C are simply a way to get rotation to reach B and D. Get rid of A and C.
  Treat the N and S magnets as the motor. If you face the magnets N,N or S,S you have obviated another rotation.That is the magnets do not have to swap poles N,S/S,N because that takes more work.The point where the two fields meet will have a shear line seperating them like two window fans blowing at each other.The air will circulate around the fan like discrete bubbles circling each fan. The center point of collision of the air has two opposite direction of flow. If your hand is more close to one fan it feels the air flow and direction from that fan and if closer to other it feels the opposite. If the fans are alternately slowed down and sped up the collision/wall will move side to side. There will exist a positive pressure between the two fans all the time.
N-S< (induced) >S-N. The induced is AC the poles in the induced alternate. The induced is not consuming of the inducers. The only consumption is the initial power used to establish the fields in the inducer magnets. After they start shifting they sustain themselves the same way any ordinary generator does with movement,you do not input current into a generator from a outside source while using a gas engine as a prime mover to generate electric do you? You just pull the cord start the engine and poof out comes the juice. Long as there is rotation or movement it will expand to it's effective limit and pour out the good stuff till you do something stupid or neglectful to stop it.The real question,the right question is how does a generator work in the first place.Because it does in fact get more magnetic field out then it started with even though no one added any current or greater field strength from an outside source. If something is not true today then it was not true yesterday and wont be true tomorrow.

That is what I was trying to show here, but it seems that we are here just to copy schematics and not trying to understand the effect.
Figuera started by obvserving the existing generatos, then he made a solid state version, evryone can do the same, JUST by LOOKING TO THE MOVEMENT in a slow motion:
reduce the numbers of the coils just to 3 , because they are the pattern-base for evry rotating generator, or alternator or dynamos....

with 2 primary coils in complimentry exitation mode, the induced current is made by BOTHE magnetic fileds (N & S): I_total = I_n + I_s (abstract formula), see the sign of the current!

I have to leave this forum for now, i must continue with muy experiments (hard to find material in this small town    )

@ ALL : Good luck


Best regards,
NMS

[marathonman]

some times i have to visualize some things to get it (sorry for Pics). im better with moving parts than abstract. i would like to comment on the SN/ Y \SN in line coils and cores. when SN coil is energized the flux influences Y coil. when Y coil Current begins to flow it reverses to counter balance SN'S magnetic flux influences so they are of same polarity opposing one another but because you have SN in line opposite end it to will oppose Y coil flux as they are same polarity because current has to flow at all times in order not to get BEMF. SN{NS}SN this my friend will end up with you searching for pee-wee herman's Bicycle on a Sunday mourning .......UNLESS you bring opposite coil down to almost zero before cut off ??    then it is possible to loose the magnetic rotation that was spoken of  earlier.
Food for thought ...might want to use this program Dip Trace free, my boards turned out great.
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Voouq_1Waro

[Farmhand]

I think in order to visualize the function of the setup to make a wave drawing we need to imagine the brush rotating around the inside (or outside) of the cylinder and the brush making contact with at least two of the cylinder contacts at any one time. The brush making contact with two cylinder contacts at any one time should minimize sparking. I'm thinging the brush rotates around the inside of the cylinder similar to an old automobile distributer, but the brush is a contact brush, it could go around the outside or inside.

The brush only has one wire attached to it, but the cylinder has many, it is definitely the brush that rotates around the cylinder. So from this knowledge we should be able to ascertain the current through the coils at any given stage of rotation. And from that we can get a wave drawing for each coil and the phase as compared to each other.

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P.S. Sorry bout the coffee stain, I made two copies and cut the cylinder out of one so I could spin it on the second drawing. The cylinder doesn't spin but it has the same effect if we look at the current through the brush.

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[dieter]

Surprising that after 50 pages the device is still interpreted so vaguely.


IMHO the cylinder does rotate, but there is the 2nd half of stator contacts missing on the drawing, and each wire on the cylinder has 2 brushes. So this way it's really simple to create two sinoids, independently. Anyway, we know the goal: to get two sinoids that are overlapping, actually not sinoids but triangle sawtheeths! Tho, the exact shape may not be critical.
You could take mains grid ac (transformed to 24vac for small scale test), "fold up" the negative part of the wave by reversing the poles (after extracting it with 2 diodes), additionally do this a second time, but 90deg out of phase using a cap. This would give you two phases with constant pulses, overlapping by half of their pulsewidth. Actually exactly what is described in the patent, except that they are sinus and not triangle. Why figuera didn't do it that way? Most likely there was no mains grid at that time on canary islands.


From the initial patent we also realize that the main goal is to create an alternating magnetfield in the induced coils core. The idea is, that moving a magnet along a coil requires mechanical work that varies in electrical efficiency, depending on the  distance of the magnet, which chanches repeatedly. By inducing the magnet with stationary coils, this mechanical work is not neccessary.


It should be mentioned that in a good generator the only mechanical work is the lotentz force, the rotor should spin with low resistance when no load is connected.


Anyway, this brings up the question: if there is no motion, is there also no lotentz force to fight?? Now that would be interesting. But then again, why are ordinary transformers not OU, they are doing basicly the same, inducing over a core a secondary coil.


Seems like everybody in here has a diffrent view of the device. Like the image of the window generator somebody posted. I yet have to see a clear diagram of the coils. Seems also, the topic starter has left the building, did he?


The only thing that is really interesting, is the convincing story about figuera.

[dieter]

The many views and opinions, how this works were rather confusing. Nevertheless I was thinking about it and it seems to me, in simple terms, it works like this:


Two strong, opposing fields on the same core with eddy suppression, between them a gap. Here's the bloch wall, where the two Ns os Ss' hit and get radially compressed.


In the gap (Probably the 3 coils share a single ferrite core) there's a pancake coil. It is capable of picking up the radially compressed bloch wall field. While the two inductors don't consume energy as long as they have the same strength, no matter how strong they are (turning on not in calculation and assuming no inductive loads) , they are capable of moving the bloch wall a few mm left and right, just by variing their voltage slightly in alternation. As soon as the bloch wall is left to the pancake, the pancake sees himself on the north pole of a strong magnet, when the blochwall then goes a few mm to the right, the pancake is south to the magnet. And here's the point: It's got a full ac cycle at the voltage of the strong opposing magnets that are consuming only the variation of the bloch wall.


Obviously, the bloch wall is not affected by the lorentz force, at least this would explain the source of energy.


So if I get it right, it should be very simple to build a test device.  It may even be interesting to simply play with two neodyms and a pancake coil.


Please note, I used the term "bloch wall", I mean the "wall" between two opposing magnets, like n vs n.