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Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

Started by bajac, October 07, 2012, 06:21:28 PM

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dieter

Quote from: marathonman on March 09, 2014, 09:21:29 PM
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to exert a mechanical force opposing the motion.

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I thought this descibes exactly the lorentz force.


But I want to present to all of you an alternative explanation of the Figuera Generator. What  if... Y was not a secondary, but a PM? And what if the pretended primaries are switching primaries/secondaries? Confused? Watch this:  (Assuming ideal permeabillity and induction conditions)

NRamaswami

Hi Dieter:

Secondary electromagnets are having coils and it is in the description. It is certainly possible that permanent magnets were placed in the spaces between the cores shown which is readily discernible in Buforn last image but not in figueras image. The gaps are probably permanent magnets in which case the primary is half permanent magnet and half electromagnet. Please see the Figuera diagram that shows that the secondary has a full core described as soft iron rods. Primary half is empty. It is quite possible that the P1 and P2 had their own permanent magnets there rather than the single magnet you are showing. Please see the drawing of Figuera. In order to cool the soft iron core there is space also between the primary and secondary. It could be for another reason as one of our friends indicated.

marathonman

 "It could be for another reason as one of our friends indicated." Yes !  and or it could also be used for Regauging the cores. this is used to return the cores to the original state faster and or adding to original flux.

"NRamaswami"  Let me know your insight that a secondary of a transformer having a higher frequency than primary is bound to act like a generator..You have not commented on it..
i am not inclined enough in the art of transformer theory to engage in this subject but if i was to take a stab at it think i might place a third coil pulsed at a higher frequency to raise the frequency of secondary....The Michel Meyer and Yves Mace Isotopic Generator  otherwise  i am most ignorant in this case.

dieter

NRamaswami, I know Figueras Drawing. But it seems to me you didn't understand my drawing. Maybe you didn't watch it really? Using Magnets as the cores of the "primaries" makes no sense IMHO.


As we agreed, Figuera must have disguised something. What if the coil on Y is fake? However, my drawing shows an efficiency of 400% and is easy to understand. I posted it in the hope somebody would study it and tell me where my mistake lies. It is also the reason why I asked about permeability and load earlier.

NRamaswami

Hi Dieter:

I have watched your drawing. The idea of using a permanent magnet  between the primary and secondary of a transformer to increase magnetic flux is in several patents. Old and new. This is not possible to be implemented unless you use steel as permanent magnet. Otherwise all permanent magnets which are subjected to high voltage AC get demagnetised. I do not wish to comment on assumptions as the office inspection report clearly shows that the patent description of Figuera is correct to a substantial degree. So we cannot assume that he faked the Y coils.  Clearly that would have been a gross misrepresentation and the office examination report would have disallowed the patent. So I'm sorry I'm not inclined to accept the idea of the Y coils being fake. some minor thing might be hidden but the patent must be as described and substantially as set forth was the standard used in those days.  So while some thing could be hidden the entire patent could not be a fake. Remember we got to know about this one through the efforts of BajaC and Hanon but for whom Figuera would not have been present in history at all. I'm sorry I'm not able to accept your theory of fake secondary coils. Permanent magnets in the spaces indicated possible. Drawing deceptive possible. But the secondary itself is fake. Not possible.