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Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

Started by bajac, October 07, 2012, 06:21:28 PM

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jegz

Quote from: SolarLab on July 03, 2016, 09:38:51 PM
F.Y.I.

Download this book:
"The Inventions Researches and Writings of Nikola Tesla," by Thomas Martin, The Electrical Engineer, American Institute Electrical Engineer, NY, 1894.

http://www.free-energy-info.com/TeslaBook.pdf

Go to {read} Chapter XXIII, page 109, "Tesla Polyphase Transformer."


Referring to Fig. 94 on page 109 - replace the "Generator [left-hand device in diagram] with Figuera's Commutator.

A commutator is also referenced in the text. The "Generator" operation works in a similar manner to Figuera's commutator; although the generator would be pseudo linear versus stepped.

Is the B-EMF eliminated in this design since strength changes in magnetic field rotate 'around' Ring A and need not reverse or fall negative? Can this design support an Asymmetric Transformer scheme, thus providing more out than in?

This was published by the AIEE in 1896 and Figuera's patents, I believe, were dated around 1902, so it may well be directly related.

FIN

That Tesla reference is unrelated and serves only to complicate matters. Figuera is elegantly simple. The part G in Tesla's device is an alternator! Part G is a variable resistor for DCin Figuera's case.no relation whatsoever!.The patent states that this is a polyphase transformer  to ease power distribution to various loads of different requirements simultaneously to improve efficiency. Back emf can be suppressed in the induced coils of said transformer  but the aim of this thread is to understand Clemente Figuera design...there are other threads where Tesla's polyphase transformer can be discussed..including the TPU thread..kindly let's stick to the subject matter.


marathonman

Quote from: jegz on July 04, 2016, 03:12:41 AM
That Tesla reference is unrelated and serves only to complicate matters. Figuera is elegantly simple. The part G in Tesla's device is an alternator! Part G is a variable resistor for DCin Figuera's case.no relation whatsoever!.The patent states that this is a polyphase transformer  to ease power distribution to various loads of different requirements simultaneously to improve efficiency. Back emf can be suppressed in the induced coils of said transformer  but the aim of this thread is to understand Clemente Figuera design...there are other threads where Tesla's polyphase transformer can be discussed..including the TPU thread..kindly let's stick to the subject matter.

Very good catch and assumption is correct Jegz. the Figuera devise is a B x V   -B x-V  pure BV device both being positive and additive thus having no relation to Tesla's polyphase devise. no offence SolarLab but very good reading none the less. any Tesla is good reading, the god of men shoved in a hole thanks to J P Morgan's GREED.

SolarLab

F.Y.I.        {{{If you ruffle easily Please DO NOT READ}}}  ;)

The term "Polyphase" is subjective with respect to Tesla's US381970, it appears to have more of a likeness to a multi-tap transformer or generator capable of 1, 2, 3 or more phases depending on configuration and number of windings.

Fundamental point being - this approach might satisfy Figuera's "self running" requirement if, for example, an asymmetric transformer winding scheme were employed - possibly bi-filar or tri-filar; spacial (phase offset); and so forth. Consider a variety of options. Tesla was very good at these things and some of his techniques are well worth considering - especially in light of the time frame of developments (1888 - 1910). Worst case - some "food for thought."  I have yet to see a completed replication of Figuera's work.

Note that Tesla's three (3) Claims do not appear to coincide with those of Figuera's although the apparatus may appear similar. Figuera's patents might well be considered an enhancement of this invention, or, quite possibly, a completely different invention. However, because of the similar nature of it's objective, this patent does serve to enhance the operational knowledge, at least to some extent, of Figuera's intent.

Tesla Patent US381970 dated May 1, 1888. "SYSTEM OF ELECTRICAL DISTRIBUTION"

Quote from Page 1, lines 15 thru 17:
"This invention relates to those systems of electrical distribution in which a current from a single source of supply in a main or transmitted circuit is caused to induce by means of suitable induction apparatus a current or currents in an independent working circuit or circuits."

Quote from Page 1, lines 61 thru 68:
"... A similar arrangement is to wind coils corresponding to those described in a ring or similar core, and by means of a commutator of suitable kind to direct the current through the  inducing-coils successively, so as to maintain a movement of the poles of the core and of the lines of force which set up the currents in the induced coils. ..."

Quote from Page 1, lines 84 thru 93:
"... While I do not herein advance any theory as to its mode of operation, I would state that, in so far as the principal of construction is concerned, it is analogous to those transformers which I have above described as electro - dynamic induction - machines, exept that it involves no moving parts whatever, and is hence not liable to wear or other derangement, and requires no more attention than the other and more common induction-machines."

Also: Tesla Patent US382282 "Method of Converting and Distributing Electric Currents" dated May 1, 1888. Appears similar to 381970 but with only two (2) claims.
Also: Tesla Patent US390413 "System of Electrical Distribution" Oct 2, 1888.
and US382280 and US382281 "Electrical Transmission of Power"   The list goes on, and on!

Tesla's complete patents: (some drawings may be missing - refer to single patents to ensure completeness)
https://ia800205.us.archive.org/9/items/CompletePatentsOfNikolaTesla/Complete_Patents_Nikola_Tesla.pdf

Anyway - Have a great Summer everyone! And good luck...

FIN

jegz

Dude. Yes Tesla was smart and perhaps this device has overunity potential depending on coil configuration or assymetry, but the purpose it served was for carrying loads with different voltage requirements provided from a single power source...case and point arc lamps and incandescent bulbs simultaneously.

Even that assymetry you speak of has nothing to do with Figuera.

As far as similarity to figuera? other than the fact that it uses wires? ....Clemente Figuera's device is very simple...and only simple solutions will save this world.

The pdf you shared has a clearer explanation than the excerpt from "Inventions writings and researches of Nikola Tesla"...