Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

[floodrod]

Thanks SL.. 

The issue is making the 2nd wave exactly equal to the first, just exactly opposite, crossing at dead center.  The 2nd wave must also connect to the other end of the resistor for the current to return.

".and further more as the current passes to the magnetic field and returns of the
same by the two ends of input and output resistor". 

I found the formula to make the resistor / waves exactly perfect by "always touching more than 2 contacts"..  Problem is, the resistor values are dependent on the load / electromagnet resistance.  I get them both dead-on with a 10 ohm resistor load, but when I change the resistor for a 16 ohm, the waves no longer work right.  To get this perfect, I must build the coil rig first and pick a specific frequency.  And build the resistor rig around those values. 

I said in the past that my setups make both electromagnets appear to be non-reactive.  But I need the waves to be right so the emptying electromagnet does become reactive..  The emptying electromagnet needs to induct so when it's emptying, it pushes the current past the zero line from the induction of the induced coil.  I don't think this can happen until we have a lot of pickup coils / electromagnets (the patent shows 24 coils ~~  8 groups) and the 2 sinewaves need to be optimal.

I am building out the coils..  I have another FE project I have been working on and off with for the last few months. It has a lot in common with this but easier to dial in. The coils should work to test both setups.  So it may take me some time till an update is made.

[SolarLab]

Imightknow
Agreed and I also noticed there are some people who consistently spam post random unrelated pictures or links the moment there is some movement towards a working principal of a free energy device. There should be no surprise here and it's common knowledge most big corporations and some governments hire paid shills to spread misinformation and distract on all forms of media.

I even ran some social experiments where I would move the conversation towards some more relevant facts, ergo bait them, and note which people made obvious attempts to distract and how they did it. The mistake I think most make is confusing ignorance with intent. To suppose some fool just spam posts every thread with nonsense where progress is being made but not recognizing the consistent pattern of behavior. You see the same people always do exactly the same things in the same way as if on cue.

My favorite is the "I'm one of you and look at all my builds shtick". Let's just build random shit which has no chance of ever working then criticize those who actually want to understand how they could work. Of course working principals could lead to a working device rather than countless nonsensical builds which never will. We naturally want to believe those who appear to have made an effort, a build, and that's the whole point. Anyone could build any number of nonsensical devices to mislead and distract a majority of people. Look, look at all the work they did, they would never mislead us or is the whole point to distract?.

Well said and it's really hard to know who is who but I found there is one way that works and seems obvious.

When someone offers something which makes us actually think or has some tangible value it's more likely to be sincere. Thinking independently and producing something of value is why were here. Look for the value in it, if there is no value or we have not learned anything then we have our answer...

AC

O.T.

Hi Onepower,

I went back a few pages to become more familiar with the work being done here regarding the Figuera device and ran accross your post.

Was glad to see I'm not the only one to notice this Shill trend on the threads that show progress. It's the same guys, for the most part.

But I still haven't exactly figured out whether they are actually paid Shill Trolls or just disruptive, very jealous children, that are afraid of
being left out. Maybe just the "center of attention" thing - IDK?  BTW - ran some similar analysis (experiments) on a few threads, as you
did, research for a lecture series on Shills, Trolls, and LARPS. The results were sad, but unfortunately, not suprising. No matter - we'll Win!

Oh well, it is what it is! Lets just leave it at that for now - maybe worthy of discussion and finding a solution - but in another thread...

Anyway - I'd like to see where this Figuera thread goes - appears to be on the right track so far and seems viable! 

Floodrod, et al, are doing some excellent work here. Please forgive me for the OT.

SL

[SolarLab]

Hi Floodrod,

Quick question:

Would a Dual Channel synchronized Sine Wave Generator (30MHz 50 ohm adj->20V output) work for driving your coils?

If so - let me know...

Something like the JDS2900 (pdf manual attached)
Features Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzRBYPXVMQs

SL

[floodrod]

Hi Floodrod,

Quick question:

Would a Dual Channel synchronized Sine Wave Generator (30MHz 50 ohm adj->20V output) work for driving your coils?

If so - let me know...

Something like the JDS2900 (pdf manual attached)
Features Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzRBYPXVMQs

SL

Thank You SL,  but I don't think it will help.  With this setup, there can be no flipping of polarities in the primaries.  I don't think anyone really sees the operation like I do (not that I am right).

So to explain, lets take a coil..  We can induct it to go NORTH in 2 ways.. 

1 way would be to bring a north magnetic field into it.  Growing north will cause the coil to try to repel the motion and make the coil go North.

2nd way would be to pull a SOUTH field away.  Again, the coil tries to stop the motion and as South is leaving, the coil turns NORTH.

The Figuera setup mimics the second way.  It causes the induction coil to react to a field by pulling away the field ** Without flipping polarity on the primary***..   

Now if we hit the induction coil from both sides, one field growing and the other pulling away, the coils are acting like a North and South even though current direction and winding direction are the same in both!  We get real AC from the induction coil between them. But the best part is how the electromagnets should react in this setup with respect to induction back to the primaries..  The magic happens in the electromagnet with the shrinking field.

Just think of how a transformer works. The normal way we get the secondary to go North is by making the primary grow North. But with this method, we can get the secondary to go NORTH with the opposite current direction in the primary by retreating south..

1. The electromagnets driving current must never switch polarities.
2. The electromagnets must simulate 2 sinewaves 180 degrees out of phase. And evenly.
3. We can not collapse the fields, 100% duty cycle  is needed.

I appreciate you looking out..

[SolarLab]

Thank You SL,  but I don't think it will help.  With this setup, there can be no flipping of polarities in the primaries.  I don't think anyone really sees the operation like I do (not that I am right).

So to explain, lets take a coil..  We can induct it to go NORTH in 2 ways.. 

1 way would be to bring a north magnetic field into it.  Growing north will cause the coil to try to repel the motion and make the coil go North.

2nd way would be to pull a SOUTH field away.  Again, the coil tries to stop the motion and as South is leaving, the coil turns NORTH.

The Figuera setup mimics the second way.  It causes the induction coil to react to a field by pulling away the field ** Without flipping polarity on the primary***..   

Now if we hit the induction coil from both sides, one field growing and the other pulling away, the coils are acting like a North and South even though current direction and winding direction are the same in both!  We get real AC from the induction coil between them. But the best part is how the electromagnets should react in this setup with respect to induction back to the primaries..  The magic happens in the electromagnet with the shrinking field.

Just think of how a transformer works. The normal way we get the secondary to go North is by making the primary grow North. But with this method, we can get the secondary to go NORTH with the opposite current direction in the primary by retreating south..

1. The electromagnets driving current must never switch polarities.
2. The electromagnets must simulate 2 sinewaves 180 degrees out of phase. And evenly.
3. We can not collapse the fields, 100% duty cycle  is needed.

I appreciate you looking out..

Just pulled one of the JDS2900s out of the "obsolete storage cabinet" and played with it.

It will do 2 synchronized sinewaves (CH1 & CH2) with CH2 set at 180 degree phase offset which gives you what you need;
if I understand correctly. CH1 & CH2 can be set to track in both frequency and phase with the CH2 phase offset to
180⁰ - so far so good (?). Both channels are exact replicas but can be phase shifted by 0.1⁰ increments between 0 and 359.9.

Now, both channels can also be amplitude offset by +/- 10VDC (PP_max is 20V) so at say 5V_pp they would not cross zero but remain positive
for the full cycle [+10V to 0V].

Setting them up from the front panel soft keys is tricky but doable however the PC software makes this easy - all on one screen.

Anyway, so far it appears this Sig Gen might be versatile enough to do your required waveforms. Might be worth a try and maybe make
things a little easier to do. Although you might need a power amplifier for driving a few coils.

Hey, check the "obsolute storage cabinet" comment above for a hint! Still setting up the new Lab but will try and find time to do a screen
shot of the waveform and post it. I just don't want you to "dead end" because of a waveform that might be easy to do! 

Regards,

SL