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Crystal Cell Research

Started by plengo, October 29, 2012, 06:08:15 PM

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Billynjamie

It may depend on the mix. My straight alum cells give like 30 percent more current when they are around 100 degrees sitting in the sun. But the voltage stays the same. I'm going to freeze mine tonight and see what happens to the voltage.  My other cells are far less sensitive to heat. I would like to find a way to warm the copper and cool the magnesium at the same time and see what that does.

NickZ

   Fausto:
  What voltage and current readings are your cells producing on their own?
You've giving us no information, other than the charts. And also, how long do these cells last, at that level?
  Voltage may not drop much with the passing of time, but less current output may be noticed from the cells after a while.
  In order to test their break down levels, it would take some time, as most cells will work fine at first, for a couple of months, or longer, as you know.

  Any salts in the electrolyte will absorb moisture, and continue to grow the crystals. Open cells will absorb water from the air, which may be the reason that yours are not going down. But, excess water can also ruin the cell, in time.

  I've seen most of your previous videos, and I'm not an armchair critic.
I also worked on cells for a few years. Until Bedini bailed on us. I can't blame him though, as he could not make money from his cells, and that was his main interest.
Not mine.

   One of my previously made videos (below), there several more to see if anyone is interested.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWjtrMKYmdo

  I think that most of us know what will happen in a short time to tin foil and copper sheeting.  Which is why I used activated carbon electrolyte, and carbon rods, which do not break down, they just contaminate. They can be reused after after a while by baking the carbon in the oven, and washing out, but they are still working three years later. Carbon is also a crystal, and an important one, at that.

  Waiting to see what you've got...
 
   

profitis

If any of these crystal cells have a single advantage over a common zinc-alkaline then,and only then,is it worth marketing.if one wants to market.

profitis

I can give you guys examples of slow corrosion cells of high power that will outlast any single crystal cell on the face of the earth but they are more expensive than zinc-carbons

plengo

Quote from: NickZ on October 14, 2014, 07:03:22 PM
   Fausto:
  What voltage and current readings are your cells producing on their own?
You've giving us no information, other than the charts. And also, how long do these cells last, at that level?
  Voltage may not drop much with the passing of time, but less current output may be noticed from the cells after a while.
  In order to test their break down levels, it would take some time, as most cells will work fine at first, for a couple of months, or longer, as you know.

  Any salts in the electrolyte will absorb moisture, and continue to grow the crystals. Open cells will absorb water from the air, which may be the reason that yours are not going down. But, excess water can also ruin the cell, in time.

  I've seen most of your previous videos, and I'm not an armchair critic.
I also worked on cells for a few years. Until Bedini bailed on us. I can't blame him though, as he could not make money from his cells, and that was his main interest.
Not mine.

   One of my previously made videos (below), there several more to see if anyone is interested.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWjtrMKYmdo

  I think that most of us know what will happen in a short time to tin foil and copper sheeting.  Which is why I used activated carbon electrolyte, and carbon rods, which do not break down, they just contaminate. They can be reused after after a while by baking the carbon in the oven, and washing out, but they are still working three years later. Carbon is also a crystal, and an important one, at that.

  Waiting to see what you've got...
 



Thanks NickZ, I did not call YOU an arm chair skeptical. I am calling those that do say anything without experimentation.


Concerning the months of running time I have for that single purpose tested my cells with very thin foils so that they WILL corrode in a week or 2 MAX. So I can see and measure its output and decay.


ALL my graphs are the voltage across 100 ohm resistance connected to the + and - of the cell. One can calculate its voltage, current and therefore output power with just one graph (V = I x R). Please correct me if I am wrong.


My cells that are not tested this way are connected to an LED and no resistors since at that point I already passed the month graph test and it is worthy to move it to a practical level, which is, LIGHT. So I am giving the power output to all to see.


Months of corrosion on my graphs are not possible since for example that graph I previously gave is based on a very small cell of about 1 cm x 1 cm on thin foils (although a different metal). Impossible to stand even a week.


The power output MUST after its first growing level reach a plato and only decay after that with time. Never it will reach that same plato after that again. Temperature will change the fluctuations of the graph +/- some percentage. None of my cells in 6 years has demonstrate the opposite (except for example that graph I gave) [/size]so for me theory about that is non sense .


In my empirical data adding water only temporarily provides more power at the cost of faster corrosion, so, water absorption has only being detrimental at least in my years of experimentation. So again, theories that contradict that for me are non sense.


You see, I am not a theory guy until I SEE the data. I notice that many books are bias in their honesty concerning theories and others are bluntly wrong. There are lies everywhere including the theory of evolution (sorry to hurt many people's feelings).


I am not interested in showing my formulas or how I do it for others to just "see it". I am interested in people showing their DATA and we TOGETHER can work this and then, only then, we WILL BELIEVE it.


If show all in my videos it will never satisfy anyone for the exception of a "rude show". I am not looking for money from Youtube for my videos although they send me an enormous check of $50 every 3 years  :o


We need here is sharing DATA this way I can show my logic and methodology of experimentation and how my intuition has led me and possibly can lead others and SO others lead me.


Fausto.