Single circuits generate nuclear reactions

[Goat]

@ Feyman

What I meant to mention in the last post is that Uncle-Fester seems to be the only one who had a runaway event, was this duplicated without the leak from the power supply?

Sorry if it was already mentioned somewhere.

Regards,
Paul

[Feynman]

Yes, the leakage was between the primary and the secondary through the neodynium magnets, which were pressed up against both the carbon rod (primary) and the toroidal transformer (secondary).  Some of the enamel had scraped off the toroidal transformer, allowing some signal to cross primary to secondary and back via the neos.   The short was apparently causing some bleed-through hash of in the secondary when the primary was fed from rectified mains.

The self-running was achieved by feeding a small neon-inverter off a dead 12V battery (discharged to 6V), with secondary output directly connected back to primary input.  The battery was disconnected and potential continued to increase for 30 more seconds, well beyond the scope limit of 1500V, until manual shutdown. And of course a digital camera was fried in the process, otherwise we would have had pictures already.  Yes the "neo-bleed-through" may have been present, was an accident, and maybe have even been necessary for the effect, but this by itself does not change the fact that we appeared to have had self-powering operation without a battery.  This means no mains was anywhere in the circuit during the 'runaway' to my understanding.  Nor was there a battery, at least for thirty seconds.

So you tell me how this happened, assuming there is no mistake.  It's either BETA, MAGNETIC,  or perhaps a third, as yet unknown, effect.

[DrSimon]

We have just verified, in words, the circuit as claimed is WAY overunity.  The fact was that the battery was disconnected and it continued to self-run (for over 30 seconds) AND magnify voltage (ie NOT damped LC tank oscillating to zero).  Obviously, something really strange is happening. Unless it was some sort of cruel trick of fate (some current sneaking in through god-knows-where), or some sort of mistake, then we must have self-powering OU.

Now the question as to how, as groundloop says, its either BETA or MAGNETIC.

If it's beta, well, we have already been through this theory in much speculative detail.  Maybe Dr. Stiffler's team will find some rays tomorrow.  Maybe they are deflecting such a concentrated stream of particles their detectors missed them. 

If it's pulsing or rotating magnetic field, then we have something entirely new.  This would explain why Dr. Stiffler's team has found no beta particles so far. In this case, the pulsating magnetic field is triggering the cheap detectors. For all we know, this may be how the TPU worked.

@Goat

You are right, there was leakage at one point.  But the 'Runaway' was from battery, not the mains.  Then the battery was disconnected.  The circuit self-ran and voltage amplified for 30 seconds at which point power was cut due to safety concern.  Now the question is how in the hell did this happen.

*Feynman
I received a very short call from Dr. Stiffler before he left the ground to head home and he asked me if we could be wrong? Of course we could be but the error is less than 1%. Yes indeed we could have not detected a focused particle stream but I do not think that is the answer.

The local CPM varies from 11-15 and the higher end is a result of the lab and what takes place here. We found the background measured at 13 and increased to 18 then fell to 10. I am not by far an expert in the EE area but I am told these differences from the device have no meaning. When Dr. Stiffler tests SEC with the 30W unit into  Xenon tubes we see a background of only 18-20. So until he gets back and tries to make sense of what we did and checks us out on the procedure I can not say much more.

Sorry for any further meaningless help....

[xee]

@Inventor81 ,
Could this be an explanation for your self running results? If you put the coil leads across the inputs to the carbon rod then the coil was shorting out the rod. All of the current was flowing through the coil, not the carbon rod. When you disconnected the battery, the energy stored in the magnetic field of the coil flows into only path available which is now just the carbon rod. Since carbon rod has high resistance it takes a while for the energy in the magnetic field to be depleted. When a coil is discharging the magnetic field it usually generates high voltages at the leads. Just something to think about.

[Feynman]

@DrSimon
No , it's fine, thank you for your help Dr. Simon, it is very much appreciated. We will figure this out , whatever it is.  I also think it is unlikely you missed the beta particles if they were there, but this might depend on the detection procedure etc.  Can you tell us what kind of magnets you were using on the carbon rod, and in what orientation? 

@all
So maybe there is no beta, it is magnetic and we stumbled upon it by accident.  That would be pretty hillarious.

Cross your fingers that this is not some sort of ridiculous AC mains short circuit.


@wavez
My understanding is that the camera was basically right next to the device, so it's conceivable it was fried by induction.

@xee
Carbon rod will have relatively low resistance I think.  I can test one when I get home.  Yes you could have LC tank resonance, but you would not expect such ridiculously climbing voltage unless you were getting dramatically shorter pulse widths so the AUC remained relatively constant and slowly contracted as losses bled out of the circuit. That is not the sort of waveform we were seeing (1500V with freaky hash). Of course it's possible we have an LC tank , yes, but I think unlikely especially when taken in the context of other non-self powering experiments which repeatedly showed COP>1.  Unless there is a serious short circuit somewhere to the wall mains, or big errors in the measurements that have been posted, I really don't see how this can be explained in a way that makes any sense, besides error or OU operation.