Single circuits generate nuclear reactions

[mikewatson]

amcha

another problem with the Naudin experiment I forgot to mention is that the known decay time from Boron (5 B12) to Carbon12 is 20.20 millisecs. So I would expect to see a second pulse delayed by 20 ms on Naudins graphs. On his graphs the decay pulse is in phase with the excitation.

mike

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@Thaelin

    I just have a real primitive knowlege of atomic theory.  Mike and Ahura are quontom leaps ahead of me.   It is peculiar that you ask this question because I was spending some time last week on researching the possiblity of concentrating molecular vibrations of an ionized gas in a heat pump circuit.  My thought was to concentrate the gas onto an emitter plate by response of the ionized gas to an external magnetic scource.  Therefore polarizing the normally randomized molecular vibrations and raising the temperature of the plate without the need of a mechanical compressor.  Something like your proton stream would be the final product of the heated gas passing through the interior of the pulsed induction coil.

[Koen1]

@Mike: you are right concerning the oddities in the VSG story.
There are certain things that just don't seem to make sense, like
the absence of the decay time in the graphs...
Or the fact that some did manage to replicate and get more energy out than in,
and others did not manage to produce such readings while their setup
sounded like it was built correctly...
Or the fact that mr Vallée himself apparently never developed a working
reactor, but only the theory...

But then again, similar oddities happened when they were trying to develop
heavier-than-air flight. Some managed to do it, others did not, some
of the latter were university professors in aerodynamics even...
But in the end a couple of bicycle repair men managed to get a wing
frame to lift off powered by a moped engine, while on the other side
of the US high ranking academics were still shouting that hta flight
was proven to be imposible. By the time those academics finally
admitted it did appear to be possible after all, despite all their theoretical
explanations to the contrary, a dozen of brave inventors were already
flying their homebuilt airoplanes over European cities. And crashing them
every now and then, of course.

I'm just saying, the fact that there seem to be large differences in the
level of success between the different attempts to replicate,
does not necessarily mean the theory is flawed, nor that it cannot be done.
It just means we haven't really figured out exactly how to get it to work in all
situations yet.



On the idea of a continuous gas discharge Synergetic generator;
It will require quite a large input to induce the initial gas discharge to begin with.
This input requirement may be decreased by adding another method to cause
excitation in the gas, so that the lower induction energy can more easily
"take hold" of the gas and "dislodge" the neutral gas into ion streams more easily.
A possible method to do so is the addition of UV light; most gases become
ionised to a degree by interaction with UV light. So we beam UV into the
toroidal chamber while we power the induction coils, and we may be able to
increase efficiency of the induction significantly.

Also, and some of you may have spotted this before as I had myself, but since
a friend of mine brought it up recently I though perhaps people here might like to
know about it as well;
As some of you must know and others may not, the induction of a circular electric
field and circular electron movement in a chamber, using such strong magnetic field
induction, is very similar to the classical setup of an electron accellerator tube called
a Betatron and used in the '50s, '60s and '70s. However, those were typically not filled
with gas but rather vacuum, and they used a cathode and an anode inside the tube;
the electrons emitted by the cathode would be accellerated in a circle by the strong
magnetic fields (that were pulsed to achieve this), untill at some point their energy
and speed were such that they would be sort of flung outward, where they would crash
into the anode which was usually a Tungsten electrode fixed to the toroidal chamber wall.
The high energy impact of the electrons on the Tungsten woud generate Gamma rays.
And that's typically what Betatrons were used for: the generation of nasty heavy radiation.
Lol not surprising that of the few people that I've spoken that understand what I'm talking
about, about half replied "you shouldn't do that! You'd be building a Betatron and you'll
kill yourself with the Gamma that produces!"...
... And they'd be right, if it really were a Betatron. But it's not.
I envision what is indeed very close to such a Betatron, but without the cathode and anode,
and without a vacuum but rather with a gas inside the chamber.
Recently I came up with a version that could include a small plasma chamber in which
a small amount of the gas can be turned plasma, so that this plasma could be ejected
into the main toroidal discharge chamber... But I'm still looking at that variation, I am not certain
whether that will actually add much.

I have tried to get hold of an old betatron tube because it seems hat a few relatively simple
alterations may turn that into a nice test version of this gas discharge reactor.
A problem I have run into here is that they're very hard to obtain. There aren't many around
that allow you to open, refill, and close the glass toroid for exmple, let alone ones
where it seems possible to remove the elecrodes, and if you find those, then it's damn hard to
find a coreless version, and if you even manage to find that, nobody wants to sell them because
you could use them to make Gamma rays and they don't want the public irradiating itself.
So far I have found zero.

Also, I have become intrigued by AbbaRue's discharge tubes. Although he uses Argon and is
using the Correa concept, he does seem to be getting out twice his input in certain tests...
Ok, that's not nearly the output the Vallée theory suggests for some other gases, but still,
it is an interesting concept... And perhaps also doable in a ontinuous circular discharge?

[alan]

Now how to fuse lead to get gold 


(wat een lappen tekst, binnenkort ff lezen, =interessant)

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@Koen1

   Sorry I meant Koen1 instead of Ahura.     My heatpump idea was to circulate the ionized gas through an input heat exchanger.  Then force the ionized gas temperature to rise by electromagnetic field manipulation that resulted in concentration of the ionized gas and temperature rise in the output heat exchanger.  The gas would loose it's heat and be circulated back into the input exchanger.  This gets rid of the losses in the compressor circuit and the flow is driven by magnetichydrodynamics.  This is way off subject because there is no subatomic play here.  I believe though that very high temperature differentials could be produced this way without resorting to phase change compression and expansion of a gas.