Resonance and HHO

[pauldude000]

Greetings Stevie,

It's been quite a while since we've had the opportunity
to share ideas.

6115710 was interesting. I never would have guessed it was the Nickle content of the stainless steel Cr-Ni-Fe-C which made it suitable as a long term inexpensive electrode for the purpose.


7043466 I haven't read as yet, and will read it later.

[pauldude000]

Hasn't anyone yet made the simple logical association that Faraday's laws of electrolysis are predicated upon postulated constant applied DC current, and are not necessarily valid as laws towards applied AC or even pulsed DC?


Laws are only valid within the specified circumstances.

[SeaMonkey]

Yes, Faraday's Law regarding electrolysis has to
do with the ionic oxidation and reduction which
takes place at the electrodes as a consequence
of electrical current flow in a strictly chemical
reaction sense.

The voltage necessary to achieve electrolysis is
dependent upon the conductivity of  the water
and how much electrolyte is in solution.  Pure
water would require a fairly high emf while a
strong electrolyte solution less than 2 volts per
cell.

[wings]

Greetings Stevie,

It's been quite a while since we've had the opportunity
to share ideas.

see this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=XVBEwn6iWOo#!

[Gwandau]

see this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=XVBEwn6iWOo#!

Great link, Wings.

This is fascinating information about the strange properties of water.


Dr. Gerald Pollack, UW professor of bioengineering has discovered a long range liquid crystal phase in water consisting of about three million molecular layers of gelly-like organised positively charged water known as being responsible for the surface tension. He has named this layer the EZ-layer(Extended Xone).


This is highly interesting since it indicates that water is not neutral, and in fact he did get a measurable current out of the charged differential between the EZ-layer and the adjacent negatively charged area. So the crystalline water phase is positive charged and have been found to grow at the air-water interface normally called the area of surface tension.


One factor that Dr. Gerald Pollack found out was that the stable crystalline phase of water extends far out into the normal bulk water and that the region of positively charged crystalline water expands considerable when exposed to light,the best effect found in the infrared region at the 3 micrometer wavelength .

He concludes that the effect of light upon water, such as the effect of the sun upon the water of our planet is shown to primarily be spent on charging the water molecular crystalline structure, and only secondary spent on warming up the water on our planet. This is indeed controversial results, and would indicate that the important of light in regard to the electro chemical state of water has been considerably underestimated.


He says that he may have found the very basis for photo synthesis found in the current formed between the surface layer and the bulk of water, since the current measured in the "water battery" was highly increased by exposing the water to light.



@Pauldude,

Maybe there is a clue here as how to approach the HHO resonance quest. I have a feeling that the organized and quite strained surface layer is the target we should concentrate on. The crystalline water structure is found not only in the interface between water and air but in any transition area, although the strongest effect where found in areas close to hydro phobic surfaces.


Merely by using same shape as a dry cell for the frequency experiments we will have created an environment where the percentage of surface area is optimized and the volume of neutral bulk water is minimized.



This in combination with light as a crystal stabilizer will arrange the water molecules in such an unison array that any frequency applied may have a much more controlled effect upon the water bonds.

Maybe this is what makes the difference.


It will in any case be included in my own initial test series as a highly interesting parameter to study.


Gwandau

Below is a screen dump from the video depicting some interesting properties of the EZ-layer.
Note: When using the term "stable" below, Dr. Pollack is only refferring to the molecular positioning, not the stability of the internal molecular bonds, which are the same as in bulk water.