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Free Solid State/mechanical energy

Started by KSW, April 13, 2005, 06:59:25 PM

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barbosi

@ DigiLab,

Even if you figured by now, the core of the coils are in the same plane with the toroid closed loop magnet.

Regards.
When the Power of Love overcomes the Love of Power, there will be peace.

louis

please detail natures laws! so that we may start to use them instead of mans, which is all we have at the moment.
i have been through this thread a number of times, and i still dont understand.
if you would teach - im sure we all would learn.

tao

Well, Erfinder, I for one WANT to move on!!!

Your words struck a cord with my pasts understandings of things, and like Emerson and Thoreau, I am all about being with and learning from NATURE.

This first post, I just want to talk about the VOID, figure I should start piece by piece.

From you writing and my readings, I see the VOID as the state of pure STILLNESS in the universe. It is where everyTHING emanates from and where everyTHING returns to. EveryTHING that comes from the VOID(which is everything) WILL return to this VOID.

The VOID is the ONE constant, like what the Taoist's call the TAO. In our world everyTHING exists in POLARITY, this is because everyTHING that comes from the VOID must do so IN OPPOSITES, so that there is ALWAYS BALANCE.

This is why you(Erfinder) are constantly saying there is no free energy, because under this understanding, there can't be! There can only be a balance of energies TO AND FROM THE VOID. But, that doesn't mean that we can't USE these balanced situations to our advantages to provide us with SEEMINGLY free energy...

From this understanding, things like tornados or vortexes or magnetic fields, all these things seems so one dimensional. But, adhering to the VOID way of things, each of those things are appearing in our 'world' in A BALANCED STATE. Sure, a tornado seems violent, but it's existance could only be possible if there was a higher order BALANCE involved.

More on this later.........

Any comments Erfinder?

barbosi

Erfinder,

I think we are at a point where presenting the way you did it in your last post wouldn't jeopardize the technical part you started with. You don't need to spell out technical details, I'm sure there is much more you want to share. You pointed to some topics that would encourage serious readers in their research, while replication of an aparatus is futile.

If you can help (also with examples from nature) to understand at least partialy some abstract things, there would be a better chance for those who realy pay attention to this topic to connect the dots. Personaly, I'm OK if the technical aspect will be left to a rest (at least for a while). Technical creativity is, with no disrespect, just another way to express the urge of creation.

I guess I said just enough for you not getting discouraged in your efforts.

Regards.
When the Power of Love overcomes the Love of Power, there will be peace.

Maximumgravity1

Howdy all, this is my first post here.  I stumbled across this thread  in researching some info about Leedskalnin's generator.  What an opportunity this turned into.

I spent the day reading through the post, trying to absorb as much as I could, and needless to say answer some questions.  I had been keeping track of questions and answers along the way, but at this point, most of them have been answered or aren't important.  However, I am attempting to answer the questions from ERFINDER on post 191.  AS these are more of guesses provided to stimulate thought, express my own questions in the answers, and see if I am thinking along the correct lines.

Keep in mind, I have almost ZERO understanding of modern Electrical theory, and as I have been studying Reich, Leedskalnin and what little I can understand from others (Tesla, Keeley, etc), I am beginning to understand that modern Electrical Theory is only relevant to itself.  As Charlie_V pointed out, it isn't all wrong, as we have many modern conveniences and marvels we wouldn't have without this understanding.  But I do believe it is a dead end street, and as ERFINDER and some of the greats of history have stated, it is only a partial usage of the available electricity.   I think this is an obvious statement, as Leedskalnin still has the proof standing in FL.  Moreover, as ERFINDER stated, the ancients weren't primitive or "unenlightened" - they understood things we can not to this day  The pyramids were the tallest/largest structures until sometime in the middle of 1900's.  That is a staggering accomplishment - considering we can't replicate it or understand it today.

But I digress, so on to the questions....

erfinder - post# 191

What happens when you are spinning in one direction at the speed of light and you instantaneously spin at full speed in the opposite direction?

In a word, Field "collapse".  You will be thrown to the outside of the circle - the car will fall to the center of the circle.  In our magnet field, this will cause more "opposite" poles to be "thrown" out of the field, and more "like" poles to be drawn in - back to the simultaneous EMF-BEMF diagram.

The void represents the point where centripetal motion becomes centrifugal motion.  This happens in one fluid motion!

When we do this 8 times in our circular magnet arrangement, we are
increasing the potential differences by a factor of 8 (as opposed to using a single bar magnet).  This probably corresponds to the 4 secondaries - I am guessing one secondary for each of the "opposite" poles for both primaries.  In other words, each Primary and Secondary need 4 pole exchanges (positive and negative for each primary - so that w can have "flow" and not stasis).  This "induces" two positive and two negative into each winding.  This is strictly guessing/thinking aloud, but I assume it has something to do with the mathematical/harmonic octave thing and our need to reverse the pole so we can pass through the neutral.  This allows our BEMF to flow back into the battery, and allows us to "fill it" to its capacity.  Or as Erfinder stated:
"When we transform the form of that which we removed into its opposite we can place as much of this back into our source as we desire, limited only by the capacity of the source.  This is lesson one!"

And this leads to the thought.....

"In a pulsing circuit such as this the conductor simulates the VOID!!!"

So if the conductor is "simulating the void" it raises two questions:
1.) Are we actually negating the field effect that each pole exhibits (this has to be part of that diamagnetism/paramagnetism issue), so that when our field is traveling near the speed of light, the secondaries simultaneously see the field as positive and negative, and has full "access" to the power "potential" of the "void"?

2.)  If we are simulating the void in the conductor, when (or how) are we able to have any work done through the circuit?  In other words, is our circuit simultaneously acting as the positive and negative pole as well as the void?  If so, I guess it is technically happening at different places throughout the circuit, only simultaneously at the same time.  Much as the magnet disc itself has reversing poles, while still continuing in the same direction.

What causes the field lines of a permanent magnet to expand outward?

Exploration to find more of like magnetic poles - to remain in balance.  Why this is, I do not know - nature of the beast I suppose.  How it is designed.  Your explanation of the Mind indicates a cognitive force/desire to seek out its natural partner with the express intent of creation.  I have no problems with this, if am I understanding you correctly.  I am a firm proponent of "kind after kind", as is shown throughout nature.  Of course this gets into the topic of defining WHAT the void is, so we can then understand why magnets race out and into it.  Aside from answering "the basic building block of the universe", I am going to ponder this some more, and see if there are any more clues around to help arrive at a logical answer.


Why is the point of maximum expansion of the field lines at the equator?

I didn't know that it was, I assumed it traveled much in the same aspect as a bar magnet - axially through the planet, with least resistance through the VOID at the equator (internally, not on the crust) - but to answer the question, theoretically, this is the Zero point of the two poles.  Therefore, the equator would be the closest to the "source" (the void, Bloch wall, neutral) and therefore, the strongest "concentration" from point of "origin".

What is the difference between a man made permanent magnet and those constructed by nature?

Materials, and the way they are made.  But this begs the question of how a load stone is magnetized?  Crystalline structure verse electromagnetic polarization?  Is there possibility for other crystalline structures to be magnetized and other structures which could be made to align?  (answer: "yes" from today?s post)?


What is the nature of a flux line?

Path of least resistance to seek out its own.  According to Leedskalnin, it is a corkscrewing simultaneous positive and negative "magnet" orbiting a neutral (void).  Flowing from the "common" neutral at the middle of the earth, out the end of each of earth's poles, traveling back to the opposite pole (pushing against each others opposite magnet - negative can't move with out the push from the positive - and vice versa) and seeking to reenter the "common" void through each opposite pole. 

Hence, we can assume, the cutting of Flux lines, although physically possible, is not harmonious with nature, as this is not the way they flow and thus the reason for the last 20 pages of discussion.  There is a better way, as many have proven in history, (and it appears) that this machine is to demonstrate.

Sit back and relax take in a deep breath and exhale it slowly, and think about what Tesla could have meant when he said closed on themselves referring to the coils in patent no. 464,666).  If you get stuck, as I am sure you might, go pay Ed Leedskalnin a quick visit.  Study his Perpetual Motion Holder, closed upon themselves indeed!!!

Would this be a closed loop coil?  Basically a coil that connects each end to itself (or another coil)?  Could these be energized through inductance, and then used to step up or down to a secondary winding?  Could the secondary be connected to the Primary with no adverse effects since the flow is not going to exceed the capacity of the conductors ability (Lesson #1)??  (/Begin Ramblings)  Isn't this the definition of Overunity?  Since the magnetic flow in a coil would be the same as it is in our permanent magnet disc, simulataneous, perpetual, and at the speed of light, the only "work" that would come from that flow would be once it is induced into an external device/coil/winding/"do-hicky".  I guess this is why there is no free energy, at some point, the coil would need to be recharged.  But I assume that a similar principle to the stationary magnetic disc could be used to perpetually "re-energize" the coil, since the disc already has "flow".  In short, just inducing the flow from the magnet, to a coil, which would then act as its own permanent magnet - at the very least have permanent "potential".  But isn't this the principle behind Leedskanlin's Perpetual Motion Device - just with additional/transforming coils?  The core/magnet could be closed to simulate our disc magnet, and the flow would be forever inducing into the coils.
   This can't be right, it seems too simple.  (/End Ramblings)

I can't say I understand the workings of your device, other then through application of the principals as I see them outlined above.  But it does beg one other question I had:

erfinder - Post# 80
2.  Rotor (aluminum core)
The magnet ring forming the rotor is made out of 4 permanent magnets the gap between each magnet does not exist, this was drawn this way to show that there are four magnets.  The magnets must touch and their poles void! 

The magnetic flux must not be allowed to leak out of the material!  (these magnets are the same as those found in computer hard drives, just thicker, approx. 1cm thickness)


Is this why the Aluminum core - to prevent "magnet" leakage?  Didn't Tesla have a similar motor/generator setup, but the aluminum become magnetized?  ( I think I saw an explanation that these are similar to the electric meters the Electric Co. provides for  reading Kwh usage on our houses).  Is this because the aluminum is "0" resistance to magnetic flow?  Conducts "magnets", but does not attract/repel nor hold residual polarity?  I am sure this leads back into the Diamagnetic/Paramagnetic discussion which is over my head.  In short, is it safe to assume:

Paramagnetism is a materials ability to be influenced by a magnet, and create/release more magnets - even if the material itself is "not magnetic".  Diamagnetism is basically the opposite, in that it repels the source magnets, while not be intrinsically magnetic?

Anyway, enough rambling for now.  Am I on the right track, or am I all wet?  Thanks for your time to post here, and for sharing your insights.  I hope this will be a place I can ask things in my simplified layman?s understanding, and receive answers at the same level, which will ultimately lead to bigger and better concepts with the ability to perform some of these experiments.