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Magnet Motor that works

Started by gotoluc, March 24, 2013, 03:07:18 PM

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Magluvin

Quote from: Gwandau on April 04, 2013, 04:50:02 PM

Personally I regard magnets as not even being the source of the magnetic effect, but merely acting as "lenses" refracting the very space around them,
but since I have come to learn the nature of your mindset, I won't occupy you with such "nonsense".



I agree. Faradays paradox should be a clear example.  ;) Also, magnetic metals tend to allow like fields to be in close proximity as compared to like fields in open space from a magnets poles where they want to expand outward and away from each other. So magnetic metals are similar to magnets as in the lens effect, just the magnets 'lens' is a bit more 'polished' than just magnetic metals. :)

Mags

Gwandau

Quote from: hoptoad on April 04, 2013, 05:58:35 PM
There is still much debate as to the true source of magnetism. While one faction of science favours the idea of electron spin as being the source of magnetism, another favours the neutron as being the source of it. Interestingly enough, both ideas have a multitude of evidence to back them up. And both ideas also appear to have gaps in their relationship between observation and their favoured theory.
Rather than only one of the above ideas being right, it could well be the case that magnetism is a product of more than one interacting force or particle. It may also be possible that both ideas are incorrect and that the observations we make are only observations which indicate how magnetism interacts with and affects the neutron and electron.
Like our understanding of gravity, there still appears to be many gaps in our understanding of magnetism.
Cheers

@Hoptoad,
thanks for your open minded comment, your respons reflects a scientific mind the way it was meant to be, delicately poised between sound critical thinking and the unknown. I am absolutely convinced that this rare combination of scientific knowledge and open minded curiosity is the primary key to novel discoveries.


Quote from: scratchrobot on April 04, 2013, 07:13:45 PM
Never thought about magnets acting as "lenses", but sounds reasonable
Regards

@scratchrobot,

this concept of magnetism originates from a relativity theory called "Unity" published by David Barclay, which I have tried to make a bit more easily understood by my work called "The Casing Theory" were magnetism is suggested to be much more closely related to gravity than conventional science dare speculate.

The casing theory primarily is an unprecedented approach to the physics behind the extraterrestrial drive, but with it comes not only an attempt to explain magnetism and gravity seen from the Unity-viewpoint, but it as well adresses the very relation between all our known so called forces.

http://www.gravitycontrol.org/forum/index.php?topic=328.0


Quote from: Magluvin on April 04, 2013, 09:07:58 PM
I agree. Faradays paradox should be a clear example. Also, magnetic metals tend to allow like fields to be in close proximity as compared to like fields in open space from a magnets poles where they want to expand outward and away from each other. So magnetic metals are similar to magnets as in the lens effect, just the magnets 'lens' is a bit more 'polished' than just magnetic metals.
Mags


@Mags,

this 'lens' theory has some interesting suggestions. For example, David Barclay has stated that gravity may be manipulated by creating a so called "self sustained unified field system" by arranging magnets in a four tier ring system within an encased container made of diamagnetic material.

If correctly aimed, the magnet array within the casing will create a self sustained field system that will relate to the surrounding field value by its own expressed value, thus arranging its gravitational position in parity with the surrounding field value. He claims this is the dynamics that decides the positioning of planets within our solar system, not the conventional idea of attraction and centrifugal forces.

David Barclay has become a close friend of mine, and I highly regard his humble attitude and graceful approach to his own limited understanding of universe.

Gwandau

JouleSeeker

DreamThinkBuild -- thanks for your responses to my questions.  I wish you well in this research effort.
  Glad to see the interest in the Yildiz motor also.  Not that I'm "holding my breath" regarding Sterling's trip, but I certainly think this is worth looking into!

Caddpro - welcome, and thank you for these insights:

Quote from: Caddpro on April 02, 2013, 07:59:05 AM
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And it is amusing to watch just how much negativity is unleashed when ever a new machine, idea or concept is unveiled. Occasionally you get the feeling that the closer some one gets to overunity the more determined the attempts to derail it become. The negativity becomes a barometer if you will. This particular thread is relatively benign in comparision to many on overunity.
I am curious about is why there is not more follow up on the many ideas and creations that approach over unity. Taking some of these ideas and putting them in the current context of energy production could yield massive benefits to the world at large. And yet so many good ideas are dismissed out of hand because they fail overunity. This is sad indeed.

Agreed.  You may find interest in this thread:  http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/8448-mib-now-monitoring-skype.html#post228506 
where I comment under my username PhysicsProf.

JouleSeeker


JouleSeeker

    We may know about the Yildiz magnetic motor by the end of the week, as Sterling Allan has flown to Geneva to observe - along with many others -- the Yildiz device.  His day-by-day blog is here:

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Event:2...ean_University

Here is a magnetic motor going on public, international display beginning April 10, 2013.
Please note, there is no need to make pre-judgements about this motor; we can observe and decide for ourselves.

Sterling writes:
QuoteQuote:  Update (as of April 5, 2013): Mr. Yildiz has been invited by the Turkish patent office to demonstrate his all-magnet motor at the Inventors Expo in Geneva, Switzerland, from April 10-14. They are paying his way. He plans to have more than one motor, and for at least one of them to run the entire duration. The idea is to run it more than long enough to rule out the possibility of hidden batteries inside. Yildiz has invited me to participate in this event, and thanks to so many of you who have chipped in, I will be attending and reporting from there.

This page is to provide an updated chronicle of events pertaining to the test of Muammer Yildiz' All-Magnet Motor at the Inventors Expo in Geneva, Switzerland from April 10-14, 2013. At least three universities will be involved in observing and documenting the demonstrations done there. After the Geneva expo, Mr. Yildiz plans to have the motor(s) tested in a university lab, in a more controlled environment. Yildiz is very determined to achieve vindication, after all these years of people questioning his technology and his motives.

As these things are accomplished, the scientific world [may] have to revise their models of physics that predict that such a motor is impossible. Also, Yildiz will have the verification he needs to bring this to market. He may also do an open license (allowing people download plans, build a company, remit royalty once commercial) on the lower power version in the range of 1 kW.