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Overunity Machines Forum



Magnet Motor that works

Started by gotoluc, March 24, 2013, 03:07:18 PM

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DreamThinkBuild

Hi JouleSeeker,

Thanks.

This is just going from observation of the videos so I may be wrong.

Quote1.  Did he use neo-magnets?

Looks like 8 neos on the rotor, 6 ceramic on the stator bar.

Quote2.  Any idea of the orientations of the magnets?

It looks like all N pointing outwards from the rotor.
The angles in the picture are pretty rough since perspective distortion isn't  accounted for but it does look like an alternating grouping(4 groups) by ~20degrees spaced by ~30 degrees between groups.
On the bar, looking at in Vizimag a N-S-N-S arrangement could be used as it creates a neutral spot at the corner of the angle. It's like the field is folded around one corner then the opposite field is folded back on the other corner in the N-S-N-S arrangement. Other arrangements could be tried though.

Quote3.   Are you considering a build?

I did start to build a 3D support structure around a 3" diameter steel cap for the rotor. All the rotors he has in the videos the magnets are backed by metal but not sure what kind. Spring cleaning has slowed me down on the build though. :)

Quote4.  Any comments on the Yildiz motor?

What I see, which is similar to the MMD track, is the barbed pattern in the magnetic field. Much like a one way gear or ratchet.

http://www.bsmhturk.com/gallery/magnetic_field_paper/magnetic_field_paper.html

I hope Stirling Allan gleans more information on his trip.

@Gwandau,

I understand it's very frustrating to have to reverse engineer every claim. While some are fairly easy to discount it's also hard to discount the probability that some might be functional without a few simple experiments to test feasibility.

@Bartguy98,

Welcome to the forum.

@E2matrix,
I have doubts about the plate video also, the way it moves when it starts just doesn't seem natural it seems to start even before the bar is bought near. The power bill is only creeping higher every month so it's worth a shot to try though. Material cost and build times have been cut down significantly with the printer. If something doesn't fit just hit the scale button and re-print. :)

MileHigh

DreamThinkBuild:

You are wasting your time.  I specifically linked to two YouTube videos to show you how the clip was faked.

MileHigh

Caddpro

Hmmm
"The is no arrangement of magnets that can ever give rise to a working motor without additional supply of energy" The intention of this statement was not just a dismisal of this particular "motor" but mag motors in general.  Obviously an initial outside energy source will always be required to start a mag motor. But the indictment of mag motors seems to me to be a curious but common response. There have been several actual working mag motors over the last 40+ years. Having said that I don't have a clue whether or not this specific variation works or not. But that is not the point; the point is that for those machines that do not present obvious flaws, unless you have physically observed the machine first hand  no one can be 100% sure that it doesn't work. And it is amusing to watch just how much negativity is unleashed when ever a new machine, idea or concept is unveiled. Occasionally you get the feeling that the closer some one gets to overunity the more determined the attempts to derail it become. The negativity becomes a barometer if you will. This particular thread is relatively benign in comparision to many on overunity.
I am curious about is why there is not more follow up on the many ideas and creations that approach over unity. Taking some of these ideas and putting them in the current context of energy production could yield massive benefits to the world at large. And yet so many good ideas are dismissed out of hand because they fail overunity. This is sad indeed.

DreamThinkBuild

Hi MileHigh,

That could be the way it is driven by an external magnet. The design conflicts me though first the movement doesn't seem right but then in the second video running the generator he shows multiple machined rotors, that takes a lot of time to build. Either it's a good hoax and he just likes wasting time on machining rotors or something is there. I question it also but the only way I can put it to rest in my mind is to build it, minus the air compressor. :)

I've been on a magnet kick lately (March Magnet Madness, LOL) building from patents of others to satisfy my curiosity. Yep, so far all these designs the magnets are still static. The MMD track was the only thing that showed movement but it also showed another side to magnets which is decay of the field. The MMD track is essentially dead the rotor gets stuck and will no longer shoot out. I'm wondering if the Yildiz motor will run into the same problem as the MMD track and experience field decay while running a heavy load over time.

Hi Caddpro,

Welcome to the forum.

So far I haven't seen a running magnet motor other than a pulse motor. I keep hearing claims but so far that's all they are. If there is one I think we'd all like to see it.

Hi All,

Does anybody have thoughts on this motor?

http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/127625/UFO__Alternative_Energy_Magnetic_Propulsion_Drive/

truesearch

@DreamThinkBuild:


Sounds like you have been busy  :)


I took a look at the "UFO - Alternative Energy" link you provided. I don't know what to think of it. I certainly wish you the best.


As a side question for you: In all of your "magnet research" have you looked at the Japanese patent #JP53-67814 (pdf attached)? What is your opinion on that design?


truesearch