Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal

[leo48]

I also sepperated the captor loop transformer from the circuit to show others clearly what you have-->and that is a simple looped system. The captor loop transformer is a nuthing device,and serves no purpose at all to the system,except for maybe draining a bit more power from the battery,and turning it into heat.

If you try to understand how it works using the rules studied in school
can not be in when they are incomplete.

Leo48

[mscoffman]

I also sepperated the captor loop transformer from the circuit to show others clearly what you have-->and that is a simple looped system. The captor loop transformer is a nuthing device,and serves no purpose at all to the system,except for maybe draining a bit more power from the battery,and turning it into heat.


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If you try to understand how it works using the rules studied in school
can not be in when they are incomplete.

Leo48

I agree with you leo48. It appears to me that the Captor and ground array is actually a vacuum tube but built with
ground inside rather then a vacuum.

The tube filament is the moving electrons primarily generated by the utility power return path. Electrons physically move at the speed
of sound while the electronic wave fronts moves at the speed of light. The reason I am saying this is that energy comes out
in synchronism with inverter power, so they are likely buffered.

The tube grid is the grid of ground array.

The problem is that Telluric currents are most likely to be found pointed downward in 3D, while utility currents are most likely
vectored horizontally. I suspect you may be able to image these with a carefully designed "tube".


:S:MarkSCoffman

[Hoppy]

Hi Void

Clarence has said that he has had the device running in loop mode without a load for 2 1/2 hours,and the battery maintains it's voltage. I only asked what test and/or measurements he had done,and all i got back was-->the device speaks for it self .

That's quite possible when the battery is looped and charging / discharging at the same time. The internal impedance of the battery can change to cause a marked increase in terminal voltage, giving the impression that the battery is charging or maintaining its voltage. I have seen this effect last for a considerable period of time. However, this is not to say that Clarence's ground rods are not in some way enhancing this affect by supplying external energy to the system but Clarence would at least need to satisfy himself that the effect he observes is not merely a battery vagary. One way to establish this is to run the system for a prolonged period of time to see if the battery does eventually discharge, which it certainly will if this battery vagary is the cause of the observed effect.

[Void]

Hi Tinman. Belief doesn't factor into it for me. All that needs to be done is to do a practical and reasonable test
and see what the results are. If Clarence can get the device to self run with a battery for two days straight
while powering a small load like a low wattage light bulb (say 15W to 25W), that should be a pretty good test. If the
battery keeps the light shining for two days straight and maintains close to a full charge throughout the two days, then
we can say that that it appears to be able to self run. A longer test can then be tried such as say one week, to confirm.
If the battery voltage drops down lower and lower over time while running, then we can say that it looks like it doesn't self run.
All the best...

[skribat]

Hi Tinman. Belief doesn't factor into it for me. All that needs to be done is to do a practical and reasonable test
and see what the results are. If Clarence can get the device to self run with a battery for two days straight
while powering a small load like a low wattage light bulb (say 15W to 25W), that should be a pretty good test. If the
battery keeps the light shining for two days straight and maintains close to a full charge throughout the two days, then
we can say that that it appears to be able to self run. A longer test can then be tried such as say one week, to confirm.
If the battery voltage drops down lower and lower over time while running, then we can say that it looks like it doesn't self run.
All the best...

I agree with you ..  'remove the resistance'  assume it can be done ..  even if it couldn't self-run .. wouldn't you be happy if it just halved your electricity bill ..  I think Clarence is an honest guy with every intention of sharing the results of his hard work . .. this is no time to be standing on the guy's face when he is trying to drag us up off the ground. .. Let's not argue OU  it doesn't matter if it is or not at this point,  let's just see how much progress has actually been made and be grateful for it. Little by little we are moving forward, it often takes a while.  It took ants five years to undermine my gatepost but it eventually fell down.  Let's all get behind Clarence and give him as much support as we can. if it were to fail we lose what .. nothing, if he succeeds we have a lot to gain. Other people in the past have failed because they didn't have enough support to prevent big business taking them out of the game, we can't let it happen again.