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Proof of Overunity From Magnets Fixture, No Negative Work Aspect, LaFonte

Started by gammarayburst, September 05, 2013, 03:00:53 PM

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gammarayburst

1. Swing bars are all the way up.
2. They are pulled down by by the attraction force of the two magnets in the bottom bar set. This is a huge force and can damage fingers if they are in the way.
3. Now one of the magnets in the bottom set is moved in Pseudo Solid fashion to the top bar set and now the two bar sets are in repulsion.
4. The top bar set is repelled away for it's full travel.
5. Now the magnet in the top bar set is move in Pseudo Solid fashion to the bottom bar set and the sequence starts over again with the top bar set being pulled down to the two magnets in the lower set.


That makes two positive power cycles, one attraction and one repulsion and no negative power cycle at all in the sequence.

Nali2001

Interesting, I wonder though, Although in-between steel, how 'easily' these two magnets really want to get next to each other.
I know the steel 'sandwitching' reduces the repulsion, I wonder how low the between-magnet repulsion really is.

Steven

gyulasun

Here is Butch's earlier video on how easy to separate two magnets in attraction next to each other:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhfqe2dyR3s 

Perhaps Butch has done the test for magnets in repulsion between the two parallel bars and experienced how the repel force got reduced.

Gyula


gammarayburst

Steven, I will send you video links. You will not believe how the attraction and repulsion forces are reduced when the magnet is between the two bars.
It's as though they are no longer magnets! I have shown on video many times how you can take your little finger and with next to no effort move that grade 48 NIB up to where it is touching another grade 48 and there is no repulsion! But all the flux from the two magnets goes out of the bars just looking for something to grab hold of. But when out of the bars only the strongest of men can push the two magnets together. I named the effect Pseudo Solid effect because when I was a kids in grade school I noticed a magnet would slide down or up a file cabinet with ease but grab on to it when you got to the end. I later during research put two bars together and it's crossed them as though the two were one solid piece. I then though up the name Pseudo Solid. What is down right magical is how the two magnets pull a second bar to them with huge force but when you just simply slide one magnet to that second bar the two bars jump to repelling each other. Now getting the magnets back together again was the problem. As you see in the animation you did that sliding them in Pseudo solid fashion was the answer. Something super important > The magnet with say a .003" air gap between each pole and the bar surface has to maintain that gap and it must be equal on both ends of the magnet. This allows the magnet to "float" because of equal but opposite forces on each end. Then fill the air gap with a low friction plastic and you can slide that magnet as though it was a piece of wood between two pieces of wood. Eddy currents can be eliminated 5 or more different ways so they pose no problem. I will send video links.
Butch

tinman

@ gammarayburst
That is because the fields are now traveling through the steel itself,insted of from magnet to magnet.
I watched the video posted ,and see no OU there at all,but more a missunderstanding of force over distance.
At the end of the day,the total energy gained between both attraction motions,is equal to the energy required to remove the two steel bar's from the magnet's ,so the action can be repeated.

No overunity here,but more miss calculations.