Proof of Overunity From Magnets Fixture, No Negative Work Aspect, LaFonte

[elecar]

Time Chicken, they are not "all one piece" they are individual pieces in contact with each other.

[timechicken]

Time Chicken, they are not "all one piece" they are individual pieces in contact with each other.

Yeah, that's exactly what I meant, when they are in full contact, why would the upper and lower "arms" start to repel each other? If there was an air gap I would understand, but then you couldn't move the moving magnet to the upper arm of course.

[elecar]

Time Chicken, if you attach 2 magnets to a bar (same polarity) you can attract another bar. If you then move one magnet (keeping the same polarity facing the other magnet) and bring it to the bars it will be repelled.

In the example you commented on in this thread the magnet is able to move easily because of the effect caused (pseudo solid). If you move the magnet from one bar to the other, the bars become magnetized in the same polarity causing them to repel, no air gap is required.

If you bring 2 magnets together  N to N  or S to S they will repel, even if you bring them into contact they will still want to repel.

[timechicken]

Ah yes, thanks for clarifying that, don't know what I was thinking.

Has anyone constructed a working unit demonstrating this effect in full? I watched all the videos I found, but in every one of them work was done by hand and it's not intuitively clear to me how much there is that the eye doesn't see (like resistance to moving the magnet in each stage). I'm baffled by this as must be many others!

[elecar]

Hi Time Chicken, Gamma would be the best person to reply. I am working on 2 projects of my own and the only experiment I tried was with two bars with magnets between. I also only had my hands and fingers to make a judgement, but it did "feel" much easier to move the magnets when in "pseudo solid" configuration. I would say many times easier (sorry for the lack of real measurement)

Maybe Gamma has tried some experiments and taken accurate measurements. I only had 2 bars to experiment with so I was unable to try sliding the magnet from one set of bars to another.

If you have a couple magnets and some steel bar you should have a go at the test as in the video, the difference in the reluctance of the magnets movement is quite startling.
I think the only way to get any definitive answers is with a build, I am not aware of anyone doing so ATM.