Self accelerating reed switch magnet spinner.

[synchro1]

@Conradelektro,


                        You might try and pack some diametric tubes inside one of those relay coils. Rattling an iron core is not the same as vibrating a magnetic field inside a wire coil. Coupling more tubes, say eight or ten would vibrate the rotor and cause an increase in acceleration. You won't be disappointed by the results my friend, if you press through to the end, you have my solemn affidavit on that.  


Here's a video where Igor Moroz inserts a magnet core into a combination power output trifilar coil. The magnet core is opposite in polarity to his monopole rotor magnets, and increases output current: I wrote Igor on Youtube and he answered that he noticed a speed up of the rotor along with the increased output current. A related but different effect. TK has something of interest to add as well.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzNjAs3-9LA

[conradelektro]

@Conradelektro,

Coupling more tubes, say eight or ten would vibrate the rotor and cause an increase in acceleration.

I have ten of the diametrically magnetised ring magnets I used and showed on the photo above.

Should I make a longer coil with e.g. 5 or 6 ring magnets stuck together (a long tube) as the core?

They will not fit into my relays coils, but I can wind such a coil (bifilar)?

I just held 6 diametrically magnetised ring magnets (stuck together) near the spinning magnet. They also rattle (all of them) and I have to stay a bit further away from the spinning magnet than with only two ring magnets between my fingers (in order not to slow the spinning magnet down).

Since the ring magnets have a diameter of 10 mm and a heigth of 5 mm, the six ring magnets stuck together would make a 30 mm long "magnet tube core" with a diameter of 10 mm. Would that be better than a 10 mm long "magnet tube core" (only two ring magnets)?

Sorry to nail you with so many questions, but I want to get it right. There is no sense in winding the wrong coil.

I can make the coil like Igor's (so that one can slide the magnets in and out)?

Greetings, Conrad

[conradelektro]

Observation: I am holding six diametrically ring magnets (stuck together) near the spinning magnet as shown in the photo in my last post.

- If the rotor does not spin and I hold the ring magnets there, the rotor turns a particular side towards the ring magnets and I feel an attracting force (the ring magnets are sucked towards the stationary spin-magnet).

- If the rotor is turning (with e.g. 2500 rpm) the six ring magnets (held as in the photo) are repelled (a little) from the rotor. I can approach them further to the spinning magnet (by force) and the rattling becomes stronger and the spin slows down (but still spinning at a lower rpm). At a certain close position (about 30 mm) the spinning magnet stops and the situation reverses to attraction. The region where this repelling works most pronounced is very small (at a certain distance from the spinning rotor, this might be the sweet spot synchro is talking about).

You have to play around a bit to become aware of it. It is not immediately evident, because it is such a small region where one can feel the repelling without doubt. When the spin-Magnet is stationary the attraction is everywhere, such easy to see.

Wow, I am impressed, something I did not expect. Thank you synchro1 for drawing my attention to that, I give you the informal "blue Nobel badge for strange observations". Wear it proudly!

Greetings, Conrad

[synchro1]

@Conradelektro,

Thanks for the Blue Nobel Badge "Strangeness observed award".

Six years ago I constructed a Cook battery with eight powerful 1/2" x 1" diametric tubes inside an electrical conduit and wrapped first with a 32 gauge magnet wire primary then a thick plastic insulated 16 gauge household wire secondary connected serially to the magnet wire. This was 1/2 of the cook battery. I had this on my work bench while I was spinning a large 2" diametric magnet with a Bedini coil. The large tube collided with the cook battery and stuck there standing still, but I noticed that when I pushed the tube in towards the bearingless spinner while in motion, it repelled it. When I got really close it began to speed up, and shove off! I checked the output and it was substantial. That's how I began to explore the strange effects you observed. You're on the cutting edge with the experimental research at this time. I only went so far and can tell you only a limited amount. I think running the magnets inside a coil core like Igor's would result in unanticipated results that only experimentation can determine. You're shoving the torch of learning into the darkness for us at this time. I'm learning from you. Very exciting, Keep it up!

Wrapping the entire stack of coupled tubes should multiply the output exponentially. There's a satellite effect in play that's potentially infinite in extent. Look at the number of spinners JonnyDavro sets into motion with no additional draw on the power coil input, from 2 AA's:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuVtKYfSDI8

The field of the coupled stack is moving cost free from the quantum like the satellite spinners. The field seesaws instead of rotating. The output doesn't come directly from the prime mover, but from the field fluctuation in the satellite stack. Cover the magnets with a few wraps of dielectric tape before winding. Once the coil's wrapped around the magnets a multi meter can help optimally position it. This is one way we get to cheat "Lenz Drag"!

[conradelektro]

Wrapping the entire stack of coupled tubes should multiply the output exponentially. There's a satellite effect in play that's potentially infinite in extent. Look at the number of spinners JonnyDavro sets into motion with no additional draw on the power coil input, from 2 AA's:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuVtKYfSDI8

The field of the coupled stack is moving cost free from the quantum like the satellite spinners. The field seesaws instead of rotating. The output doesn't come directly from the prime mover, but from the field fluctuation in the satellite stack. Cover the magnets with a few wraps of dielectric tape before winding. Once the coil's wrapped around the magnets a multi meter can help optimally position it. This is one way we get to cheat "Lenz Drag"!

This is a nice theory and I am willing to give it a try. But I am not willing to disrupt my life because of this theory (I have other things to do as well). So, it will take time while I slowly build my stuff and report what I see.

It is very nice and considerate of you to freely share your thoughts and I appreciate that. Please have patience and please correct any errors I do while building.

Would be nice if other experimenters went into that area as well. It is fairly easy to build a magnet spinner and more talented people can surly build better spinners than me. Once there is a magnet spinner (spinning a diametrically magnetised ring magnet, take a fairly big one) one can easily put a "synchro coil" near it.

My little theory is that the drive electronics should consume as little electricity as you can manage. Burning many Watts for driving the spinner will be extremely difficult to recuperate with a generator coil (no matter how ever magic the generator coil will be). You can use the OpAmp circuit TinselKoala showed in this thread. The Bedini style circuits use too much electric energy according to my unimportant opinion. One could also use the two transistor circuit I show in my video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqQSJjRJ6EQ . If I recall correctly, Lidmotor and others used it for a magnet spinner (I never did).

I believe in a drive coil and trigger coil without core and very many turns of wire, which means the coil will have a high DC resistance (which is easy to measure). My trick is to take such coils out of relays (24V or 48V relays, I have shown them in this thread and else where http://www.overunity.com/13852/self-accelerating-reed-switch-magnet-spinner/msg378662/#msg378662 ). These coils lead to a low power draw (but the torque of the spinner will be low as well). But if there is no or only little "Lenz Drag", we do not need high torque (turning strength) to induce current into a "synchro coil".

Just keep in mind that the spinning magnet should be a single magnet. I had two and more of them as a stack on the axis and you can only spin it by having the drive and trigger coil extremely to one side (operating only on the last magnet in the stack from the side). A stack of diametrically magnetised ring magnets has a strange magnetic field around it. The poles are alternating as I indicated in the drawing of this post http://www.overunity.com/13852/self-accelerating-reed-switch-magnet-spinner/msg379579/#msg379579 (top left corner on the photo).

Greetings, Conrad