A few questions from a newb

[Photonfanatic]

Hi all. I'm sorry if this is the wrong sub forum, but I looked through all the rest and this is the closest thing I saw for general discussion. So to get to the point, here's my questions.

1. Why in the bloody hell is Solar so freakin' expensive? We are all looking for over unity, but how about just plain free energy? It comes from the sun. I think its safe to say that most of us wouldn't be here if solar was cheap. If I could go buy a bank of solar panels that would run my house for a couple thousand bucks, we wouldn't need an overunity device. Well, not for the foreseable future anyway. They'd have plenty of time to get fusion going to run our future interplanetary spacecraft. Meanwhile, we'd all be living in a (mostly) oil free, (mostly) pollution free environment. And as such, the earth's future would be assured. So why the heck is solar so expensive? If it would just play by the rules and go down in price like everything else does, our energy problems would be solved.

2. What are the most promising areas of overunity, that have the most scientific evidence behind them? John Hutchinson seems to think its vacuum tubes. Or rather, drawing energy out of some type of vacuum device. I'm becoming disillusioned after studying up on the searl effect generator. I don't want to spend all that time studying again, just to find out, once again, that all my efforts were in studying a freakin' scam made up by a poor delusional old man.

3. This forum has an element of scam to it, that I think it should ditch. The search for overunity has enough scam problems without the grass roots community helping it out. I think you all know of what I speak. Why is that here?

[TechStuf]

1.) Solar is expensive because the Truth is expensive.  And since the "civilized" world was weaned on the lie for many moon by the flotilla of crap that has managed to float to the top of societies everywhere, it no longer cares enough to fight for air, considering the smell "up there".  But just so you know, with a little ingenuity and elbow grease to go along with your couple thousand bucks, you absolutely can run your home on solar.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/4KW-Almost-Whole-Broken-3x6-Solar-Cells-DIY-Solar-Panel-/180713386690?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a135b72c2

A grid tie option is probably best if available in your area as it avoids battery banks and can completely offset your electricity costs.  Many receive a check from their utility company for the surplus.

2)  That certainly depends upon who you ask!  If you were to ask the PTB (who have grabbed and hoarded all the best tech), they'd look at you funny and maybe ask you what you mean by the word: "promising"? 

3) There are numerous reasons for the seeming illusion of free energy at our finger tips.  This goes back millennia since the quest for "overunity" began.  And one of the chief reasons that it stays just beyond our grasp goes back quite aways too.  With great power comes great responsibility.  And with great responsibility come those that love power the most.  Our world could only end up as it has.  Those allowed to NOT play by the rules, always get ahead in the "game".  See definition for "domestic quell".  Many hard and soft options.  If it's one thing that the PTB have mastered, it's the ability to misdirect.  Hidden hands in every pie these days.  Fun, fun.....yet they are now playing witness to the "incredible shrinking playground".


TS

[Paul-R]

2. What are the most promising areas of overunity?

Yooou should check out Patrick's book, now sited here:
http://www.free-energy-info.tuks.nl/

Chapter 16 will interest you.

Paul-R

[Floor]

1. Like predators seeking out the weak and wounded, con men appear in hard times, to take advantage of peoples desperation for solutions.  In these times it's our eco crisis. Carbon credit trading, phoney free energy devices etc..
2. Well intentioned people, not understanding their own "discovery / inventions" significance or lack there of. 
3. Followers (in there hopes despair and even desperation) of these two kinds of "leaders", empowering the criminal and making it very hard for the well intended / misinformed to see / own their mistakes.  Who would want to fall from the high status of eco savior to fool ?
4. Practical jokers.
5. Corporation propped up, financed  disinformation, false inventions and claims designed to cloud the arena, and cause explorers of alternative energy / OU to become so jaded as to hardly be able to even consider the next device idea.


                            It takes a lot of courage, and discernment to stay involved.
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[TechStuf]

Corporation propped up, financed  disinformation, false inventions and claims designed to cloud the arena, and cause explorers of alternative energy / OU to become so jaded as to hardly be able to even consider the next device idea.

It takes a lot of courage, and discernment to stay involved.

Well said.

A select few among us, (whom will not fail to, ahem, "introduce themselves" should you have anything remotely interesting to say) have so much emotionally invested for so long, that despite their lack of success or witness of success, they stay involved when they shouldn't.  As they become nothing more than empty husks of their former selves, merely haunting these "catacombs" screeching and moaning at anything that moves.  (And that's not counting the paid disinfo minions who have nothing in life to live for but a counterfeit code of "honor" and a pilfered paycheck.)

Their courage has fled, their discernment devoured.

That said,

PhotonFanatic, jump in, it's an exciting field.  And remember, Hands on beats a hand out, hands down.


TS