Even more simplified experiment to show OU using artificial gravity

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I'm afraid Viktor Schauberger beat us all to the punch bowl.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GctFKIp8uXI

And look what he got to show for it, even way back then.  Before the hydra dared dream of commandeering local space.

Your computations mean little on the page.  Especially in this day and age.  Should one manage a real go of things....

He should be aware that the hydra doesn't like competition.  And in a world where the truth, what remains, is often but a lie undiscovered, if such were allowed to proliferate, it could only be with the beast's blessing.

http://www.rense.com/general54/babalc.htm

Beware of geeks bearing gifts.


TS

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I agree it is almost the same, but his is overly complicated in that he is trying to time out the imbalance.
(actually after reading some of his work, I believe it's the same principal)

The same thing can be done even easier than I have shown using just four sprockets and some chain on the wheel. (+ the weights)

I have been an engineer for over 30 years and though I am sure this can't work, I don't see why!
The torque on the output is totally decoupled from the drive. If this was not so than a similar setup could be use to build a gravity wheel.
It's like the weights can be continuously falling as the wheel turns, driving the output, and the faster it turns is like stronger gravity.
If anyone knows why this does not work, then speak up so I don't need to build it!

Hi Lumen,
how do you transmit the original torque from the blue wheel to the central gear
in your machine? This is not very clear to me..
Also, can you elaborate on a simpler design with four sprockets + weights you mentioned?
Thank you on advance!

[lumen]

Hi Lumen,
how do you transmit the original torque from the blue wheel to the central gear
in your machine? This is not very clear to me..
Also, can you elaborate on a simpler design with four sprockets + weights you mentioned?
Thank you on advance!

The original torque is never transferred to the output gear so at very low RPM or no weights, there is no output torque.
To make an easier version you would make the center and two outer gears as sprockets with the center sprocket a double sprocket, then run a chain from one center sprocket to one outer sprocket and another chain from the center to the other outer sprocket.
It's also easier to understand if you think of it running horizontally to avoid the effects of gravity.

@nybtorque:  I believe pumping water is not the same because you must constantly accelerate new mass as new water enters, and that will require additional work.

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The original torque is never transferred to the output gear so at very low RPM or no weights, there is no output torque.
To make an easier version you would make the center and two outer gears as sprockets with the center sprocket a double sprocket, then run a chain from one center sprocket to one outer sprocket and another chain from the center to the other outer sprocket.
It's also easier to understand if you think of it running horizontally to avoid the effects of gravity.

@nybtorque:  I believe pumping water is not the same because you must constantly accelerate new mass as new water enters, and that will require additional work.

I think I understand - an input only accelerate the weights towards the required speed.
This model with the sprockets is quite easy to make and try.
Regards.

[lumen]

I want to say that even though the chain configuration appears to achieve the same goal, there may be important differences between the chain and gear configurations in how the centrifugal forces are utilized.