Super simple way to see proof Pseudo Solid principle works using ring magnets

[gammarayburst]

See attached

[Floor]

Ok  Butch

Let me think about it, and get back to you.
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[mscoffman]

I believe that an interesting approach to solving friction problems would be
the use of; ~ small captive spherical sapphire ball bearings ~ arranged is 120
degree pattern on the face of the magnets. I believe friction and magnetic loading
problems will then become nearly nonexistent when used with boundary support.

:S:MarkSCoffman

[Floor]

@ Gammaray Burst

Because  we can / are able to measure the work alone, we
can largly ignore the friction and other losses at this point.

We can make measurements of the work alone.  And assign reasoned
/ reasonable approximations of what the friction and losses are.  AND / OR
there are also ways to measure the actual friction losses in the tests. 
Then subtract these from the "gain".  Later though.

With out a rotory or cycling device actual power would be difficult to assess.

Doesn't matter though. 

Simpley showing an accurate work in to work out ratio is a huge step forward.
A ratio of say 1.3 : 1 might indicate a working device.
A ratio of 1.5 : or 2 : 1 would be fantastic !

Reducing friction in the tests IS desireable.  If Teflon coating is easy enough then
go ahead with it. However, a litle oil or grease in the right places might be all that is needed
for the tests.

Saphire spheres sounds awsome for a future cycleing device.

The attached PDF (L F meas 1.pdf) Has some notes / drawings for you to consider / modify /
through out  so on.

These are just a start, as  there are a lot more details to cover.

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[Low-Q]

First of all I admire Butch who work so hard trying to make something to work.


The pseudo solid concept was once very interesting to me, but one day I ran some tests with it, which changed my mind.


The magnetic attraction and repulsion to the iron, and between each magnet, changes to the weaker or the stronger depending on if the iron pieces are in a pseudo solid state, or not.
So every time one think there is excess energy when switching from the one state to the other, that portion of energy is already been used by that other state in the cycle.


I still hope that Butch finally reach success with the pseudo solid concept.


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