Telekinese forces proven...

[WilbyInebriated]

@Triffid .Yes I am sure we all wish it was real , but wishing sadly does not make it so .For those of you who have not worked it out , my initial post on this thread was to stimulate controversy , and lead to further discussion .I have been disappointed with the response .I am also disappointed at the number of people who regard Randi as a fraud . In reading the report by the American Airforce , I was struck by the fact that they allready see Teleportation as a weapon of war , and that is before it has been proved to exist .

well, for the record, i was disappointed with your initial post... using that well worn and oh so flawed "extraordinary claims" platitude. at least you don't believe in imaginary godfaeries.

[neptune]

@Wilby .Ok then .Let us accept your revised version of the Extraordinary Claims thing , and substitute Unpopular claims . I feel that it amounts to much the same thing . If I claim to be the son of the local street sweeper , you may not ask for much in the way of proof . If I claim to have paranormal abilities , fewer people will take that claim at face value . So if you say that extraordinary proof is not necessary , you might agree that at least ordinary proof would at least be desirable . So far I have not seen any proof at all . Should such proof be forthcoming , I am prepared to judge it on its merits . Be honest . How many people have you met that can perform telekinesis ? I do not have a closed mind , and am willing to be shown .

[WilbyInebriated]

@Wilby .Ok then .Let us accept your revised version of the Extraordinary Claims thing , and substitute Unpopular claims . I feel that it amounts to much the same thing . If I claim to be the son of the local street sweeper , you may not ask for much in the way of proof . If I claim to have paranormal abilities , fewer people will take that claim at face value . So if you say that extraordinary proof is not necessary , you might agree that at least ordinary proof would at least be desirable . So far I have not seen any proof at all . Should such proof be forthcoming , I am prepared to judge it on its merits . Be honest . How many people have you met that can perform telekinesis ? I do not have a closed mind , and am willing to be shown .

it does not amount to the same thing. please elucidate how "extraordinary" somehow becomes synonymous with "unpopular". i'll wait. if they did in fact "amount to the same thing" then the jref should have been all over it, with the same zealotry they apply elsewhere. in its time, galileo's thesis was considered quite extraordinary, as was newton's. why should this have been held against them? it's good that you understand that it is only UNPOPULAR claims that fall under this fallacious "extraordinary evidence" umbrella. as i  noted earlier, the jref has done nothing to debunk one of the most extraordinary claims ever... nor have they touched on einstein's extraordinary claims, etc. etc. ad infintum, ad nauseam. which leads me to believe that randi is in it for the fame.
ok i'll be honest. the amount of people i have met in relation to the amount of people in the entire world is insignificant... THEREFORE, i cannot, in good conscience, commit a logical fallacy known as a 'biased sample'. not quite the answer you were looking for i'm sure...

[triffid]

The air force story may be disinformation.I agree that wishing does not make it so BUT flying was a wish for hundreds if not thousands of years and somehow we did it!Besides didn't tesla pave the way for teleportation?
triffid

[triffid]

The invention of the gun five hundred years ago was remarkable plus the gun has evolved into modern forms from the original.Along the way men have learned to deal with the gun and the issues it brings.If teleportation is being looked at as a weapon  Then money and time will be spent to develop it further.Along the way we hopefully will learn how to deal with its use as a weapon.triffid