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Overunity Machines Forum



Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED

Started by mondrasek, February 13, 2014, 09:17:30 AM

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Marsing

Quote from: mrwayne on March 03, 2014, 09:15:52 AM
The design of the system was just to mechanically amply force - by request we spent the money to self loop itself - even in its infant stage of development - with no engineering - that was possible.

Once again here is the link to that self contained closed loop system

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-0TITC4Wrc

The arguments will always come from some...

Thank You

The Working system is not what was needed in the end - to gain the funding - it is character, our actual business plan, and the simple math - and blessing from God.

Thanks.

The Working system is not what was needed in the end - to gain the funding - it is character, our actual business plan, and the simple math - and blessing from God.

what is this mean ?


mrwayne

Quote from: Marsing on March 03, 2014, 09:27:39 AM

The bad thing so far there is no energy can be extracted from the system.
every cycle you need to allocate some external energy                  .......... ALWAYS.......       ::) :o

DOn't know what you are referring to?

The LOAD - is the energy extracted, with every half cycle?

We use Hydraulic production as the load - because it can be used to both apply Hydro assist and rotational output to a generator (thru a hydraulic motor).

Thanks

mrwayne

Quote from: Marsing on March 03, 2014, 09:52:09 AM
The Working system is not what was needed in the end - to gain the funding - it is character, our actual business plan, and the simple math - and blessing from God.

what is this mean ?

Good Question..

It means that clear minds do not refute the obvious - they try to understand.

The obvious - is this - if the total input to output is near 100% and then the original input can be recycled to reduce the cost of another cycle - you have a simple method of defeating conservative outputs.

In our original model - we recycled over 57%

It also means:e If a system dos not work simply.............complex Calcs do not and will not make it work either, complex math is good for explaining, and opening minds.

So when it does work simply - experienced minds value the simple.

Lastly - the comment was in reference to our blessing to have found the people who can see the obvious and experienced enough to value the simple.

I hope this helps.

Wayne



Marsing

Quote from: mrwayne on March 03, 2014, 11:03:59 AM
DOn't know what you are referring to?

The LOAD - is the energy extracted, with every half cycle?

We use Hydraulic production as the load - because it can be used to both apply Hydro assist and rotational output to a generator (thru a hydraulic motor).

Thanks

Eout - Ein =  extracted energy,  and of course with full cycle

do you have a self running machine ?

mrwayne

Quote from: LibreEnergia on March 03, 2014, 01:50:39 AM
I'd wondered why Wayne stopped at having just two devices connected though. Using his thinking adding more connected together would offer far higher chance of success. Even in its current form, with a bit of pre-charge the IZED, (infinite Zed) might actually work long enough to convince investors it worked. In fact it would be hard to argue that it didn't.

Two years ago - one of the TK "likes" said something Similar - meant to be an insult:

Why not just continue hooking the ZEDs together to forever..

In reality - the layering system works in much the same effect - but with reduced Capital cost and reduced foot print.

Net is the Product - two Six Layer ZEDs can be optimized to put out the same Net production as four three layer systems, in roughly the same foot print.

............

So it is a business decision - and a structural mechanical (Cost) limitation - to continue to up size each system.

Wayne