Silly question about voltage and current

[Dave45]

We live in a polar world the earth is negative the ionosphere is positive when lightning strikes leaders form from both, two forces seeking neutralization.
The air we breath the atmosphere we live in is neutral, pos and neg joined to collect from the environment we have to seperate the charges.
You laugh when I mentioned pos and neg charges and yet its everywhere, the ionization circuit is self explanatory.
 

[MarkE]

We live in a polar world the earth is negative the ionosphere is positive when lightning strikes leaders form from both, two forces seeking neutralization.
The air we breath the atmosphere we live in is neutral, pos and neg joined to collect from the environment we have to seperate the charges.
You laugh when I mentioned pos and neg charges and yet its everywhere, the ionization circuit is self explanatory.

Dave, it is self-explanatory when you add the parasitic capacitor at either end that exists whether you choose to draw it or not.  So what do you want to do with this other than build a mosquito zapper?  Are you out to try and harvest lightning strikes?  Some of the challenges there are that the power levels are enormous and the form factors are very low.  IE it's a struggle to keep stuff from getting vaporized, and what does not get vaporized still loses tremendous energy to heat.

[TinselKoala]

You laugh when I mentioned pos and neg charges

No, Dave... we "laughed" when you talked about positive and negative _energy_. Charge is not energy, although it may be close, and charge is a conserved quantity. Positive and negative Charge is a very different concept than positive and negative Energy.

One of the big problems that we encounter here is this laxity of meaning. Check the definitions of your terms, please. You can certainly make up your own language (splitting the positive? Whaat?) but if you do then nobody but you will know what you are talking about. If that many.

[Dave45]

You say electrons are negative and that current flows from neg to pos then turn around and study circuits right the opposite, how can you ever understand whats really happening.

You said we laughed, do you really think that bothers me, I guess that makes me the minority, I like it, I really never fit in anyway and I like to follow my own path.

Ya'll keep patting each other on the back and agreeing and keep paying for something that is free.

[TinselKoala]

You say electrons are negative and that current flows from neg to pos then turn around and study circuits right the opposite, how can you ever understand whats really happening.

Why don't you ask the people who designed your computer? They do exactly that: they know which way electrons go, and they use the conventional circuit analysis that is "right the opposite". In fact, every single electronic device that you have ever seen that actually works, is designed by people that you think are stupid and wrong.

You said we laughed, do you really think that bothers me, I guess that makes me the minority, I like it, I really never fit in anyway and I like to follow my own path.

No, Dave, YOU said WE laughed at you for your positive and negative charges, and I corrected you because what I was laughing at, if I laughed, was your negative ENERGY. Charge is not energy, electron flow is not energy, conventional current is not energy, and especially when you pulse a DC coil you are NOT GIVING IT NEGATIVE ENERGY. Please try to keep your story straight.

Ya'll keep patting each other on the back and agreeing and keep paying for something that is free.

Whatever, dude. You just go ahead, keep on driving on the left when everybody else is driving on the right. I'm staying the hell out of your way.