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Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.

Started by Grumage, March 06, 2014, 12:29:06 PM

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elementSix

Sorry for your thread Grumage,  I think Les is right.  It's being highjacked and being destroyed before it has even started.  Trust yourself  in the end.  I don't know much on the workings of circuits like this but I would look for the impulse creation from this circuit.  If it's like his other setups, then there has to be an impulse of some sort created in there somewhere.   Anyways I found this SSTC circuit from way back and found it interesting that it ran off of the TL494 also.  just interesting.  Good Luck

T-1000

http://www.freenergy.com.ua/topic/132-ustanovka-akula0083/page-8#entry11192

TOPruslan: Обмотка мотается так : 1. Сперва мотаете с края  15 витков , а затем прокладываете бумажку и мотаете 45 витков поверх. Позже выложу как было у меня.
Translation: windings are done in this way: 1. First you wind 15 turns from beginning, put paper between and later on wind other coil of 45 turns on top of primary. Later will show how I have it.

So my assumption seems correct in way of windings are made.. :)


MenofFather

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Отправлено 02 Март 2014 - 09:26
TOPruslan сказал(а) 19 Фев 2014 - 07:02:
Ребят , я тут языком чесать не регистрировался. Извините , если что не так. Но у Акулы есть не только фонарик на 1 Ватт !!! У него есть схема,которая  у меня служит доказательством существования СЕ :)  Это фонарь на все 30 Ватт. Собирается на ШИМ контроллере 494 и парочкой транзюков. Конечно без катушки тут не обошлось. Она там проста и легко делается. Но есть на схеме подвох. 16 нога микрухи скорее всего на корпусе ("-") или генератор не выпускает на выход ничего. Кренку я заменил на 9 вольтовую , так как 12 вольт старт и кренка 12 вольт...Ну тут как то не алё. Катушку мотал как написано,но при этом использовал провод 1мм. Вместо светодиодов использовал один мощный прожектор - светодиод на 10 Ватт. Подрубал ещё параллельно один и всё работало. Но тут есть ещё одна фигня ! 2 дня я ждал что будет с этой все схемой. Горело всё красиво. Но в оди вечер погасло :) Решил разобраться , в чём дело ?!  Рассыпался сердечник трафа так, как будто кто-то  стукнул его молотком. Я склеил заново супкр клеем и запустил. В таком состоянии он работал ещё 2 дня и повторилась история. Только теперь он лопнул в других местах. Думал , что же такое ? Оказывается , сделал ошибку при намотке и экранировании , где между катушками поместил экран из меди. При этом замкнув его в один виток. Тоже самое сделал и поверх вторички. Но там он распаялся и прожёг изоленту,намотанную с верху. Вообщем устранил я все эти глупости и сейчас всё пока горит уже 4-ый день. Не прикосаюсь пока. Схема проста , но детали все нужно искать такими,что указанны в схеме. особенно диоды на выходе. (Ребята, как сюда картинку засунуть Вам)
   Привет всем, не вижу опции написать самому Руслану, поэтому может бть он прочтет и ответит, в приведенной вами схеме на стр 7  вы много чего поменяли он изначальной, , вы добавили один транзистор, диод и так далеею Вероятно в ыочень хороший эдектронщик, если способны так лихо изменять схемы, и , конечно возникает вопрос, а почему вы не захотели попробовать на имеющейся схеме , вероятно она была не оригинальная и нас пытались специально ввести в заблуждение или наоборот? имеющаяяся схема с другого форума , может быть специально с ошибками / ведь авторство не известно прилагаю  файл

Posted March 2, 2014 - 9:26
TOPruslan said ( a) February 19, 2014 - 7:02 :
Guys , I've been scratching your language is not recorded . Sorry if that is not so . But the Sharks have not only 1 watt flashlight ! He has a scheme that I have is proof of the existence of the overunity :) This lantern on all 30 watts. Going to the PWM controller 494 and a couple transistors . Certainly without coil there has not been . It is simple and there is easily done . But there is a catch on the scheme . 16 foot mikroscheme likely on the body ( "-") or the generator does not produce output anything. Voltage stabiliser I replaced the 9 volt , 12 volt since the start and voltage stibiliser 12 volts ... Well here as it is not ale . Coil shook as it is written , but he used 1mm wire . LEDs used instead of one powerful searchlight - 10 Watt LED . Hem parallel to one another and everything worked. But there is another garbage ! I waited 2 days what will happen to all of this scheme. Burned all beautifully . But Odie extinguished evening :) I decided to find out what's the matter ? Crumbled core cores as if someone hit him with a hammer. I re- glued supkr glue and ran . In this state, he worked for 2 more days and repeated the story . Only now he burst elsewhere. Thought , what is ? It turns out , had made a mistake when winding and shielding where placed between the coils of copper screen . While hooked it in one turn . Did the same thing over and the secondary . But there it is soldered and burned insulation tape wound to the top. I even eliminate all this nonsense and now everything is lit until the fourth day. Not touch yet. The scheme is simple , but the details need to look for all those that are specified in the schema. especially at the output diodes . ( Guys like you shove here image )
   Hi all, I do not see an option to write most Ruslan , so he can bt read and respond to you here on page 7 scheme you a lot of things have changed it original , you've added a transistor , a diode , and so probably in Dale good electronik man , if they are able so valiantly to change the scheme , and of course the question arises , why do not you want to try on the existing scheme , it probably was not the original , and we specifically tried to mislead or vice versa? imeyuschayayasya scheme from another forum , can be specifically with errors / authorship is not known.

This was translated by Google, not me.  I know the translation sucks, but TOPruslan, the creator of the modified circuit speaks about winding the transformer and the two copper shields and a short circuit that burned it......"

I little corect words.


Then I say about ecran I mean shielding and screen... ;D

verpies

Quote from: Les Banki on March 19, 2014, 09:39:03 PM
Also, don't fall for all that nonsense (yes, nonsense!) about input/output power measurements as some posters promote!

Why do I make such a statement?
Simple.
You are NOT dealing with a device with a claim of marginal OU in the order of a few percent which could perhaps be a measurement error!

If you want to know the input power to this device, I can give it to you right now:
The TL494 IC, running on a 15V supply has a maximum current draw of 10 mA.
(average 7.5 mA)
That translates to 150 mW (0.15 W). (maximum)
Add the 12V regulator's power consumption of approx. 96 mW (maximum) and you have a
TOTAL of 246 mW (0.246 W)
Now, just for the hell of it, DOUBLE it and round it to 0.5 W.
However, this device will produce 30 W (or more) depending on the LOAD and the transformer
The power measurements relate to the whole device, not only to its "control section".
You accounted for the power output of the main transformer but you did not account for its power input - a major oversight.

It makes great sense to make O/I power measurements unless you have a long-term self-runner without an external power supply.
...and if you don't, then power measurements provide a reliable indication how far off from the self-running goal, the device is tuned.

verpies

Quote from: MileHigh on March 20, 2014, 04:29:06 AM
Why should a transformer or an inductor for this variation on a pulse circuit be any different than all the other previous circuits that failed? 

Quote from: Grumage on March 20, 2014, 07:09:43 AM
As you rightly mentioned the electronic control circuit has no mystery, the mystery being solely rooted in the transformer!! This is the beast that we should all experiment with.
Yes, the control circuit is not mysterious at all.
If there is any magic, it is in the transformer.

For example, MenofFather hast posted a winding layout diagram here that according to conventional electronic principles of engineering, has no chances of functioning.
Mr. LesBanki has noticed these shorted turns and stated:
Quote from: Les Banki on March 19, 2014, 09:39:03 PM
Oh...'MenofFather' posted suggestions to the winding method, including SHORTED turns!
Guys, with all due respect, with that kind of suggestions you will never get anywhere!  Guaranteed!
And he is correct within the boundaries of conventional electronics. 
However if some unconventional piece of physics happens in those shorted turns (e.g. McFreey's beta current) then the senseless becomes the sensible.

Quote from: lost_bro on March 20, 2014, 03:21:00 PM
I decided to find out what's the matter ? The core crumbled as if someone hit it with a hammer. I re-glued them with super glue and it worked. In this state, it worked for 2 more days and then the story repeated, only now it broke elsewhere.  What is it - I wondered ? 
It turned out, that I had made a mistake with the placement of windings and copper tape shielding...

Quote from: Grumage on March 20, 2014, 03:45:27 PM
Dear lost_bro.  Many thanks for that very interesting translation.
HOPE !!  So the Ferrite self destructs !! NAR ?? NMR ??
So as you can see again and again, this transformer is a very complicated and "mysterious" device ;)

The core can break due to excessive heating (usually caused by hysteresis losses) or due to acoustic stress (usually caused by magnetostriction).
The acoustic pressure waves can reflect from the boundaries of the core and form acoustic standing waves of very high amplitudes.
These hi.ampltude standing waves appear only at specific frequencies and they can break up the core ...or affect the nuclei if one gets the B & f just right.