Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)

[TinselKoala]

There are at least two possible interpretations, one more charitable than the other.

Giving Robitaille the benefit of the doubt: He had a vision, a revelation, a spiritual awakening. The "fact" that the QEG would work as claimed was revealed to him by a higher power. This is documented somewhere in the maze of blogs and forums that HopeGirl has set up over the past year. His utter faith, combined with the usual psychological observer biases, cause him to exhibit some characteristic behaviours. Contrary evidence is considered to be invalid or is simply ignored. Demonstrations that "prove" claims are performed instead of true experiments that actually examine the claims and the relationships between experimental variables. Data that appears to support the claims is accepted without question while data that does not is "wrong", the apparatus isn't working right or some other reason is found to disregard it. Protestations are made that for some reason ordinary measurement techniques must be modified in order to provide data that supports the claim. True experts in the field are ignored or not given proper consideration, because after all, the original information came from a Higher Source. So the process boils down to one of self-delusion, with religious overtones. As Richard Feynman probably didn't really say, "The easiest person to fool is yourself." And when one is surrounded by a support group that doesn't think critically or have the education or experience to examine the claims honestly for themselves, the delusional process snowballs. The next step is full-blown cult status.

On the other hand.... a less charitable interpretation gives Robitaille the engineer, 20 years at ShopVac Corp. with motor patents and lots of bench time..... full credit and faith that he knows exactly what he is doing wrt power measurements and all the rest of it, knows exactly that the early QEG claim to have a working prototype running for 150 hours.... working meaning _self-running as claimed_ .... is false and was made to drum up interest and donations, and is having a grand old time, vacationing in exotic places, keeping his own hours for a change and tinkering with a cheering section instead of slaving on assigned projects with deadlines and supervisors. In short, James Robitaille the experienced engineer is conducting an operation that he knows full well will not and cannot succeed, and he's having the veritable time of his life doing it, and it's not costing him, personally, a cent. He's Famous! He's travelling the world! He's met by cheering crowds whenever he gets off an airplane, and his schedule is so tightly planned that he's long gone... as from Taiwan... by the time anyone figures out they've been had, bigtime. And like all con marks world wide since cons began, those conned in Taiwan aren't about to come out and talk about it, demonstrating how gullible and naive they were.

[markdansie]

The illusion grows


By Dave Starbuck Sunday, May 18, 2014[/font][/size]Source: [/size]www.allegedlydave.com/blog.htm?article_id=5[/font][/size]I, like millions of other people around the world, read the announcement of the open sourcing of a free energy device back in march with a little skepticism, (I've been banging on for quite some time that inventors should just 'put it out there' rather than try and make themselves rich with their invention, and yet here it and I was still skeptical... go figure) but I have been following its progress with mounting excitement, wishing that I could be a part of this historic venture and no sooner than I got back to base I was. A package of test equipment needed to be taken over to Morocco and it was thought that the courier needed to be someone who could provide a little assistance to Jamie Robitaille the developer of the Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) and next thing I knew I was a plane to MoroccoI arrived in Tangiers, expecting to be met at the airport by a Moroccan friend of Youssef, the QEG team's "Fixer", I couldnt say that I was looking forward to a two hour trip with a man that I had no hope of communicating with, although, being met in Tangiers airport by a Moroccan driver holding a sign that read "Mr. Starbuck" would have been cool.I had skillfully negotiated the surly looking gendarmes and their associates that looked for all intents and purposes like secret police, (not so skillfully, in hindsight, now that I know that I apparently look like a Moroccan) but now, with the exit gate a mere arms length away, I was halted by a border guard who seemed mildly interested to find out what was in the large instrument case I dragged behind me, filled with oscilloscopes, multimeters, high voltage probes and various other terrorist paraphernalia that would have whipped up American TSA agents into a frenzy and sent them scrambling for their tasers, rubber gloves and KY Jelly. Thankfully, I had been briefed on how to handle this situation, I was given the cover story that it was equipment for use in a humanitarian project to build a water pump to bring water to the impoverished village of Aoucham, and I felt confident that I could deliver a convincingly casual performance that would not arouse suspicion. The guard seemed so laid back that I probably could have said "Don't worry mate, it's just meters and shit" and he would have rolled his eyes and waved me through, but unfortunately the border guard began asking me questions in French and it was only then that I realised that my near fluent command of the French language, that I had enjoyed two decades earlier, had degenerated to the point where I could barely describe a monkey sitting in a tree (le singe est dans l'arbre... yeah baby I still got it )[/size]I managed to explain through a combination of hand gestures and broken, schoolboy french that the case was sealed with metal tags that would require cutting off and that I had no hope of explaining what was in it and now the guard was starting to get agitated, his hand kept straying toward his radio and I began to wonder what life in a Moroccan prison would be like, but then I was saved, Jamie Robitalle himself and an american woman called Whitney (who spoke perfect French) had come to meet me at the airport, and even though, disappointingly, they were not carrying a "Mr. Starbuck" sign, they were able to have us quickly on our way.Jamie is a humble, unassuming man with a seemingly perpetual smile and the gentle demeanour of a beloved maths teacher, and the three of us were engaged in easy conversation that evaporated our two hour journey to QEG headquarters, it was at this point that I learned that while the QEG had achieved resonance, it had not yet achieved over-unity, that is, it was still consuming more power than it generated. Even though my role was little more than a courier, I offered my services as Jamie's assistant and silently stated my intention to see over-unity before I went home.I arrived at "The Sanctuary" at 4:00am and a few hours later I was up and being introduced to the members of the community as an honoured guest, and since it was a Sunday there was not much work that would be done and so I found myself slipping into the easy flow of the community as I participated in their activities as if I'd always been a part of them.The following day Jamie explained how he had approached Timothy Thrapp from the WITTS "Christian" Ministry who, despite their altruistic claims of releasing free energy to the world, demanded $400 for one hour of his time. Jamie was able to get a basic understanding of this replication of Tesla's work, but it was clear that he was leaving out a lot of information and being intentionally vague about what he did share, and when Jamie compared notes with someone else, who had paid handsomely for the privilege, there were several contidictions. It also became obvious that the intent was to seduce customers into repeated "donations" to the Ministry. Moreover, when Thrapp learned of Jamie's intent to open source the technology, relations between them became frosty.Then I had my first live demo of the QEG, it was loud like an power router, and as it achieved reonance there was a harsh sounding rattle and it did indeed perform distinctly under unity, Jamie showed me his meticulous records of trials of varying rotor speeds and capacitance values and explained his hitherto failure to find a "sweet spot" combination.The QEG was, at this point, working at unity, that is, it was producing the same amount of power as it was consuming, which in itself is an astounding achievement since the generators that supply our power now consume something in the region of 18 watts in order to generate 10 watts.Later, Jamie began a new series of experiments with much larger arrays of capacitors and testing the location of a grounding wire. My assistance largely took the form of getting in the way and asking far too many questions.On my third day working with the QEG, I was privileged to sit in on a Skype call between Jamie and a German team who are also developing a QEG, some data was exchanged and an accord was reached to have closer ties and regular catch up meetings.By the fifth day Jamie's dogged persistence had paid off, he ran a new sequence where the QEG would initially power the load of six 100 watt light bulbs, he would the add a solar array inverter (high voltage input) to the load and once it initialised he would disconnect the bulbs and the QEG would be running the inverter, unfortunately the badly regulated Moroccan mains power would alter the QEG output and send the inverter into a diagnostic mode, and on the rare occasion that we successfully ran the inverter we soon discovered that the new Earth configuration caused a ground fault condition and would trip the main breaker.Eventually this new configuration was tried sucessfully with all the new test equipment I'd brought hooked up, oscilloscopes were oscillating, meters were metering and high voltage probes were probing, the input power meter was showing that the QEG was drawing 600 Watts, the output voltage was holding steady at 380 volts and the output current was peaking at just under 2.4 amps... Jamie began muttering about adjusting the values of the capacitor array, but then my maths skills, that are as sharp as wet spaghetti, kicked in it was outputting just under 900 watts.... in other words...OVER-UNITY!Not an awful lot over but over-unity nonetheless; Jamie smiled and almost reluctantly agreed. I suggested that since the inverter was now capable of running the drive motor we should aim at having the QEG running in self powered mode, Jamie however, was far more cautious, but he wired up the changeover switch nonetheless.[/size]On day six, Jamie had been in communication with a QEG team in Canada who had some interesting ideas regarding treating the primary winding as the secondary and drawing power from that winding instead, we studied the new schematics but they didn't seem to make a lot of sense, but then we mused about the tecniques and methodology one might employ to hide a simple solution, stretching it out so that customers would keep coming back for more, but without making it seem like the customer was being tricked and bled dry and we agreed that switching the primary and secondary might well fit the bill, so Jamie set about rewiring the QEG.Day seven, my last day. Jamie had been up late the previous night talking to the Canadian team and he wasn't around by lunchtime, so I went to Oued Lou, the nearest town with a group from the community, but by the time I arrived back Jamie had already finished rewiring the QEG and was already reporting a significant voltage in the primary in the 1-1.5kv range, and was busy adding a bank of capacitors to the primary winding as per the Canadian design, we didnt have a variable resistor to place in series with the capacitor bank as the design specified but Jamie tried it anyway. The difference was immediately noticeable, the QEG began to resonate at a much lower RPM around 1625rpm, the loud jarring rattle that had characterised the QEG at resonance had been replaced by a gentle purring as it ran far more smoothly and easily than ever before.The QEG was drawing 500 watts, the secondary was still powering its 600 watt load of light bulbs and yet on the primary side we were reading nearly 2000 volts at 1 amp. If I had gone by Jamie's furrowed expression alone I might have missed the fact that he had just achieved serious over-unity 500 Watts in and 2000 Watts out... I had to rouse him from his deep contemplation of how to reach his target of 10Kw to remind him to celebrate the fact that he had actually achieved 2.6Kw... I managed to get a high five out of him before he resumed his tinkering.The QEG achieves Over-Unity!!At this point, about 1:30 am, members of the community, sensing that something of importance had occurred began to gather in the workshop, more were awakened to witness the event, a rousing round of applause went up for Jamie and we all tucked into Over-unity cake, baked specially for that moment.So the next step will be to make the QEG self running from the secondary windings stepping down the voltage using a transformer from a high power microwave oven.Breaking News:[/size] Hot off the press!!!I just spoke to Jamie and he mentioned that he has now achieved 3kW output, that's six times over unity![/size]

[hartiberlin]

I also think that either Robitaille is no engineer and does not know
how to measure AC correctly or this is really
a scam on purpose to try to scam the most money out of hopeful
people...

I am looking forward to see a video about the things
he has written here to see, how he has measured this...

http://be-do.com/index.php/en/forum/qeg-news/393-qeg-morocco-overunity#1677

Until then I would advise everybody to stop any no further donations for now...


Regards, Stefan.

[MileHigh]

Great contributions from many people.  I just have a little bit of colour commentary.  Hopefully for a few smiles.

Some select pickings from James' big posting:

The 1st and 2nd do not phase lock (I can dial right through) and are multi-phasic (power going back and forth as Jeremy mentions)

Multi-phasic?  This is not electrical engineering speak.  It's more like "eager free energy experimenter with no relevant education or experience" speak.  Set your Phasers on "Dumb!"

I measured 9,460W with 600W input, and 13,326W at 800W input

Thirteen thousand watts!  The bench must have caught fire!  They must have got singed from the radiant heat!

At 800W input, this is about 1590W RMS

Some people made the same mistake here but James is the one that has to be responsible for what he says.  To say "RMS power" is a no-no.  In theory you can calculate "RMS power" but there is no logical reason to do that. When you deal with AC power, what is implicit is that you are talking about average power.  "RMS voltage" or "RMS current" makes sense.  "RMS power" should never have been uttered by James, especially considering his alleged long experience as an engineer.

Notice also that his first ever mention of "RMS" came after the posting showing the under unity calculation made in onto the Be-Do forum.  (Thanks and we made it by the censors!)

and with 700W input, I had only 1,836W peak (about 175W RMS)

I need an RMS, oops I mean RMA number for my core!  lol

We need to better understand the interaction between the primary and secondary, and how to optimally tune the loops.

I will translate that:  Every single QEG group across the world is going to undergo three or four months of excruciating and agonizing trial and error tests where they try every single possible combination of caps and coils and numbers of turns of wire until they collapse from frustration and exhaustion.

Interfacing to the real world brings up another item I've been wanting to mention to you guys: Judging from Witts latest (full version) video, the lack of any discernable change in resonance/sound/RPM etc. as he turns on lamp after lamp leads me to believe there is a constant impedance load on the output. In other words, I think the generator is operated at full power, full time, and the load is completely isolated from the output circuit (transformer or inductor as load), and all the power is pulled out of the secondary.

I can't bend my mind around that statement.  I thought that if you were switching on more lamps then you were changing the impedance of the load.  But hey, if you can actually believe one of the WITTS hillbillies then you need Jethro Bodine on your team.

I will be back on around 6pm. Leave me your questions here, and I'll pick them up through the day and we can discuss tonight.

The average Be-Doer is going to say, "Throw some crystals at the thing and run it sitting in a shallow tub of structured water!"

MileHigh

[TinselKoala]

Earlier I said that their measurements in that video were "perfectly adequate". What I meant was that they can be taken at face value and interpreted correctly to give a valid conclusion: no OU is present and efficiency is actually rather low.

However there are other considerations. After thinking about it and reviewing their physical setup and layout, I can say this: some of their measured amplitudes may be spurious as well. Long unshielded wires dangling all over the place, a current transformer Rogowski coil with a 50-ohm BNC connection hooked up through an adapter and clipped to a scope probe by unshielded wires.... the big HV probe just sitting on the table with wires all over the place.... it's a nightmare of stray inductance and will almost certainly be giving artifact-ridden measurements.