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Overunity Machines Forum



How Steorn Works

Started by terry1094, August 29, 2006, 01:51:46 PM

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PaulLowrance

I'm wondering if there are any other Steorn quotes that can clarify this. It seems Steorn was merely talking about the mechanical output. For example, an electrical motor is mechanical output.

If the Steorn machine is not electrical then it could still be MCE (magnetocaloric effect). One thing about MCE is that it does not require electrical current. It merely requires a magnetic field, so a permanent magnet would also work.  I think in order to potentially extract MCE energy with just PM's you would have to have fast rotating parts. One of interest that comes to mind is the Searl effect. Anyone remember the Searl disk?

http://www.sisrc.com

I think Steorn seems legitimate so far even though I have this feeling it's a bust cooked up by the science community, which is what a scientist told me. If it's legitimate then yeehaaa!  If it's a bust then I for one will not be distracted or disappointed in the very least and I hope everyone here feels the same!!!

Paul Lowrance

Jowik

This was taken from Steorn's FAQ on the Technical:

As previously stated we continue to file patents on the technology as we find better ways to achieve the same result. As a result we have to be careful about the details that we place in the public domain (as such public comments could be deemed prior art). Hence I will not be in a position to post significant technical details, however there follows an overview:

Core Technology
The core technology is the ability to construct certain magnetic fields (using permanent magnets) that when other magnetic materials travel around a closed trajectory within these fields a non-zero energy sum is achieved (after compensating for friction losses). For a fixed trajectory travel around a closed loop in one direction will gain energy and travel around the loop in the other direction will results in an energy loss.

The trajectories themselves may not be a simple circular loop, they can involve complex paths through the field (depending on the specific construction of the field).

Such a gain in ?mechanical? energy is in itself not a violation of the 1st Law of Thermodynamics since there are other energies involved in the system. However tests have shown that there is no degradation of the magnetic domains as a result of this mechanical energy gain/loss (i.e. the magnets are not being drained of their energy) and there is no change in environmental energy (due to a magneto calorific effect) associated with the mechanical energy gain/loss.

Testing
The core technology is tested in a variety of different ways, including mechanical energy measurement systems (static and dynamic) magnetic field measuring equipment and temperature measurement equipment. We also test by moving weights to demonstrate external work done (over the losses due to friction).

Status of the Technology
The technology is at a prototype stage, i.e. we are not yet at the point of developing commercial products. Both the prototypes and the core technology is under constant development.


I know that the above is a limited amount of information and will cause yet more frustration, however the ultimate answer to the key question will have to be answered by the Jury.

Ekfugo

Personally, I am very suspicious of the fact that STEORN has been able to receive so much positive media coverage.

I have seen them on FOX News, and on another important interview on Fox cable with their business guy Neil Cavuto.  I've heard from others that STEORN's been featured on CNN, and may shortly be on with Larry King.

The overwhelming majority of those promoting new energy devices face tremendous suppression - STEORN has offered very little to the "skeptic", or to the (normally) hostile media, yet they don't appear to have much opposition.

~ Ek

PaulLowrance

Thanks for quotes Jowik. Have you seen any of these detailed experiments where they supposedly take these measurements?

Quote from: EkfugoPersonally, I am very suspicious of the fact that STEORN has been able to receive so much positive media coverage.

I have seen them on FOX News, and on another important interview on Fox cable with their business guy Neil Cavuto.  I've heard from others that STEORN's been featured on CNN, and may shortly be on with Larry King.

The overwhelming majority of those promoting new energy devices face tremendous suppression - STEORN has offered very little to the "skeptic", or to the (normally) hostile media, yet they don't appear to have much opposition.
I agree it seems suspicious for also other reasons, but we have to give them the benefit of the doubt.

Ekfugo, if Steorn turns out to be a failure, will it somehow discourage you away from the "free energy" community?  I really want to know other people's feelings and thoughts on this.  It is really concerning there are companies and people making huge claims of success time after time and they simple fade away, never hearing much about them anymore.

What is concerning is the claims without any detailed experiments. If these experiments are available I would like to see them.  I cannot imagine in a million years making such a discovery, completing a "free energy" machine, going on national TV shows, etc. and not at least publishing simple experiments where they took detailed energy environment measurements.

Paul Lowrance

Liberty

Concerning Steorn,

In my opinion, I too find it disturbing that they have not released any test data or output figures whatsoever.  For such a claim to be made, and then not give out any data to back it up is highly suspicious to say the least.  They should reconsider their secrecy and open up a little more to maintain their integrity.  A claim in such a public way should be ready to be backed up with hard data tests, and shouldn't wait for a jury to decide in a month or 10 years.  If it's that good, they should be safe in saying so and stand behind their claim with real test data.  I doubt that test data reports (even if in error) will impact Intellectual Property.
Liberty

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