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Overunity Machines Forum



1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%

Started by cipbranea, May 21, 2014, 01:38:08 AM

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d3x0r

Quote from: noonespecial on July 06, 2014, 08:08:39 PM
Wouldn't the rotation result in a flat horizontal rotation?
Yes... other than from a stop, first the top is moved, which causes the weight to go up by roughly (sin(angle)*B*r/A) [only works for angles less than 90 degrees, if you were to move the top of A 180 degees the sin would be 0 again and the equation fail... but at that point the mass B would be highest if you didn't allow the axle to turn), and will turn the B shaft slightly, but now the mass is higher and can fall, the fall will be deflected by being on the rigid bar B and will turn A a greater distance than it was raised (assuming r is less than 1/2A or something...)... and continuing to move the top of A around the circle will keep it ahead, leaving B to continuously fall.... and it will be apparently a smooth circle, but really there will be a up/down bobbing of the mass.  The acceleration will cause the mass to ahead of the angle at the top of the shaft which will cause it to be higher and start to fall backward, which will end up self retarding until it is again lagged behind the angle of rotation of A around the circle.


Consider you're not applying the rotation to A at the same time, only a translation, the gravitity is pulling c (COM/COG center of mass/gravity) down to create the torque/turning of axle A. 


Edit: Playing with my rough spreadsheet, as the angle of rotation goes down, the distance the mass travels around the axel goes up exponentially... like a 5 degree turn is 158x around the circle vs height raised 1 degree is 1780x and 0.1 degrees is
56286.97213 times the height raised.... what this means, is that although it goes up only a little ways, it has a very long time to fall back down since most of the acceleration will be translated to torque/motion around the circle... and longer at shorter angles.... and probably my math is way off somewhere... doesn't look like it...[/size][/font]

centraflow

This is how the top drive works, it is interreactive with the middle weight, which is in turn interreactive with the bottom weight/load.


Simple but effective


regards


Mike 8)




turbogt16v

i have been thinking a loot lately on output,when  power is reduced from
the device  equal or greater than input it falls out of sinc or stops.

would it be more effective to drain power from the first weight as it
is helped by second weight any way

centraflow

More load produces more torque in the machine, quite brilliant, also it can't be over loaded, as more load is applied, the top lever will move more toward the center axis of the gimbal, when it hits that center then the drive just turns on the end of the lever.


It seems the machine is totally load reactive


regards


Mike 8)

RMatt