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Oscillating sine wave LC tank magnet motor.

Started by synchro1, August 31, 2014, 09:26:50 AM

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synchro1

Two coils with their two 6 pole magnet rotors, a wall plug, a DPDT switch and an incandescent light bulb are all we would need along with the A.C. amp meter to see if input dropped on load. There's a chance the magnet rotors will catch on with just a few strong finger flicks.

tagor

Quote from: synchro1 on September 18, 2015, 12:12:45 PM
This guy claims he got OU results:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4FEba4kQb0

My claims are not dependent on any of Hatem's research. However, it might be possible for Mindfreer to show that the input doesn't rise on the power motor when he connects the two light bulb load through the alternator, because of the "One Direction Grab Rule".

The one real advantage to Mindfreer's Hatem setup is that the alternator can't pass it's "Lenz Drag" back to the generator rotor. He doesn't bother to underscore this point.

since 2010 .. there is no replication
there is no independent verification

so you can think what you want but the hatem motor does not work
the inventor has no working device it is a real fact ( i visit him few years ago )

tagor

Quote from: synchro1 on September 18, 2015, 06:16:27 PM
Lidmotor says that his oscillator input drops when he's pulling a load through his generator coil at 1:40 in this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afEWXadfpqY

Does "Slip Torque" play role in this input reversal?

it is not what hatem and fabrice andre are doing
there is no working device based on hatem miracle

synchro1

@Tagor,

Thanks for contributing to the thread. Mindfreer's videos were taken down unexplainably. Now they're back! I watched one for the first time yesterday I've never seen before. Mindfreer maintains that the strength of the magnetic rotor coupling is directly proportional to the output. The coupling strength of the magnets is equal to the amount of power that they can generate. Lenz drag from the alternator causes the magnet rotors to slip. This problem never-the-less does not cover all the unusual and fascinating effects we witness from magnets.

Hatem's generator is not overunity, because his magnetic rotor couplings are too weak. That doesn't mean it does nothing. I believe it's important to experiment and find out if there's a "Lenz Free" relationship in the coupling. Eliminating "Lenz Drag" on the prime mover is a lesser achievement then overunity, but very worthwhile anyway.   

Anyone can spin a few N.S. magnet tops next to one another to see for themselves how slowing one down has no effect on it's neighbor, but speeding it up does! This is my only claim, and it's the key to eliminating "Lenz Drag" on the prime mover.

Acceleration causes traction between adjacent magnet spinners, deceleration causes free wheeling! Acceleration locks the magnetic rotor fields; Deceleration unlocks the magnetic rotor fields. Every magnet shares this "Inertial Latch" feature.

This "Latch Effect" conforms to the principle of: "Conservation of Energy". Spinning magnets share their increased velocity, but not their inertial drag. Thery're only attracted by positive spin. Negative spin is void! They can only support each other positively, and not run each other down. They speed latch and brake free! The moving spinners have a synergistic relationship with zero entropy. This explains why the entire Universe doesn't just slow down and grind to a halt too soon!

synchro1

This is leading into some very complex force relationships. The latch behavior inside a "Forced Field" area follows the coupling strength. The magnets need to be in a balanced spin zone, not a forced area, for the no "Lenz Drag" effect.

Drawing the magnets too close together will cause them to just stick to each other. After that event, the back traction is infinite. This is an important point; The "Lenz Free" spinners have to be positioned precisely with respect to distance between themselves to benefit from the "Inertial Latch" effect. This distance is different from the coupling distance used by Hatem between his generator rotors. I'll call this the "Inertial Latch Zone". This is the zone where the attraction from acceleration is greater then the decoupling from deceleration. There's a marked inequality between these effects at the correct distance.

Chaniotakis positions his "Elemen" driver magnets just close enough to the alternator rotor to effect it, but no closer. Hatem pushes his rotor magnets together more closely inside that area. Hatem's rotors are stuck together in both directions, unlike Chaniotakis's "Elemen". As we distance the spinners, the decoupling force increases over the attraction from acceleration and reaches a height at a sweet spot.