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Magnet Myths and Misconceptions

Started by hartiberlin, September 27, 2014, 05:54:29 PM

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MarkE

Quote from: tinman on January 24, 2015, 05:24:25 AM
The real mechanical analogy for a resistor would be a slipping clutch. Heaps of power from the engine getting turned into heat,and not transfered to the load(the car).
Both are decent analogies to resistance.  One is using the rheology of the fluid forced through the aperture to resist flow.  The other uses sliding friction to resist rotation.

verpies

Quote from: tinman on January 24, 2015, 04:51:37 AM
I simply have no faith in current science and physics taking us any further than they have,and i believe that we will go no further until we throw the theories away,and start looking for the real deal here.
Not all of current science is a dead end. Much of our contemporary science possesses good  quantitative accuracy even if you cannot admit that about its qualitative aspects.  Even if the science does not explain why two wires with current attract each other, it still tells you how much they attract.  That us useful and useful machines can be built based on that observation.  Also, if you come up with a good explanation of an effect, it must not conflict with these quantitative explanations - an "acid test" of sorts.

So I would suggest a more balanced approach - sorting out the chaff from the grain.

tinman

Quote from: verpies on January 24, 2015, 05:44:07 AM
Nie wylewaj dziecka z kapiela.  Not all of current science is a dead end. Much of our contemporary science possesses good  quantitative accuracy even if you cannot admit that about its qualitative aspects.  Even if the science does not explain why two wires with current attract each other, it still tells you how much they attract.  That us useful and useful machines can be built based on that observation.  Also, if you come up with a good explanation of an effect, it must not conflict with these quantitative explanations - an "acid test" of sorts.

So I would suggest a more balanced approach - sorting out the chaff from the grain.
Sure,there is good science-although i believe there is much being hidden from us in the name of the all mighty dollar. I mean ,do you really expect me(or most others here) to believe that we have the technology to send and controll robots on mar's from here on earth,but we dont have a cure for the common cold ::). The same go's for cancer. Imagine if no one ever had to go down to the local drug store to get there yearly dose of cough medicine-->yep,billions of dollars world wide gone from the pockets of the big drug companies.

And why did the space shuttle program just stop?-They ran out of money ::)-rubbish,the American government would never give up a space program-never. This is a case of! we have better,but the public cannot have this information!. To go out on a limb(and i dont really care what others think about me when i say this),i have seen what i have seen,and i will tell you right now-there are no !NO! planes we have (that we the public know about) that can maneuver like the one i seen did.

There are those that already have answers to things we are trying so hard to find,and i believe it's because we are looking at the past insted of looking for the future. MH says to look in the book's-study them,but books from the past are not going to pave the way to the future. Funny thing about books are they were written by people that found answers through experiments-they had no books to read-->they are the book's.

The elite hide so much from us-lets take the moon for example. So even google can take snap shots from space,and show your backyard to the world as clear as day. The government can spot a bloke taking a pee from space-clear as day-->but we have no clear pictures of the moon's surface ???-what crap is this. Something to hide i think?.

Real scientific breakthroughs will come from those that arnt controlled.

MarkE

Quote from: tinman on January 24, 2015, 06:05:31 AM
Sure,there is good science-although i believe there is much being hidden from us in the name of the all mighty dollar. I mean ,do you really expect me(or most others here) to believe that we have the technology to send and controll robots on mar's from here on earth,but we dont have a cure for the common cold ::). The same go's for cancer. Imagine if no one ever had to go down to the local drug store to get there yearly dose of cough medicine-->yep,billions of dollars world wide gone from the pockets of the big drug companies.

And why did the space shuttle program just stop?-They ran out of money ::)-rubbish,the American government would never give up a space program-never. This is a case of! we have better,but the public cannot have this information!. To go out on a limb(and i dont really care what others think about me when i say this),i have seen what i have seen,and i will tell you right now-there are no !NO! planes we have (that we the public know about) that can maneuver like the one i seen did.

There are those that already have answers to things we are trying so hard to find,and i believe it's because we are looking at the past insted of looking for the future. MH says to look in the book's-study them,but books from the past are not going to pave the way to the future. Funny thing about books are they were written by people that found answers through experiments-they had no books to read-->they are the book's.

The elite hide so much from us-lets take the moon for example. So even google can take snap shots from space,and show your backyard to the world as clear as day. The government can spot a bloke taking a pee from space-clear as day-->but we have no clear pictures of the moon's surface ???-what crap is this. Something to hide i think?.

Real scientific breakthroughs will come from those that arnt controlled.
I find it a strange phenomenon that there are many people who claim that information is being withheld from them and yet they purposely ignore what has been learned the hard way by extremely gifted people over countless hours of careful toil.  No matter what the Ministry of Truth says:  Ignorance is not knowledge.  Books record ideas right or wrong. No one forces anyone to merely accept what is written in a book.  Physics texts describe many of the experiments conducted by the giants whose shoulders we stand upon.  One is free to consider those experiments and the results, postulate a different conclusion, and devise an experiment that resolves the new hypothesis.  But if one merely chooses to shun what experiments have been conducted, and how the conclusions have been reached then one condemns themselves to boot strap themselves out of the stone age or live it.

tinman

Quote from: MarkE on January 24, 2015, 06:43:08 AM
I find it a strange phenomenon that there are many people who claim that information is being withheld from them and yet they purposely ignore what has been learned the hard way by extremely gifted people over countless hours of careful toil.  No matter what the Ministry of Truth says:  Ignorance is not knowledge.  Books record ideas right or wrong. No one forces anyone to merely accept what is written in a book.  Physics texts describe many of the experiments conducted by the giants whose shoulders we stand upon.  One is free to consider those experiments and the results, postulate a different conclusion, and devise an experiment that resolves the new hypothesis.  But if one merely chooses to shun what experiments have been conducted, and how the conclusions have been reached then one condemns themselves to boot strap themselves out of the stone age or live it.
The problem is the !so called! laws of physics. How can you make laws based on theories?.
Lets look at the law of the conservation of energy-->WTF dose that mean ???. If we adhear to this law,then we might aswell all pack up our bat and ball,and head off home-game lost.

And what if i can show this law dosnt apply to all. What if i can show a device that can switch from a gravity device,to a buoyancy device,and produce an energy output that is greater than the energy applied to the device.

First up-A gravity powered device-->breaks that law.Rubbish they say-cant work.
Second-A buoyancy device-breaks that law. Rubbish they say-cant work.
What about a mix of the two?-Nup-still rubbish.

But to all that read this,look at the picture below,and answer this very simple question.

Account for all the energies out,so as they equal the energy in.
Cant create--cant destroy--only transform.