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The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )

Started by syairchairun, November 09, 2014, 09:05:00 AM

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Jimboot

Someone posted a link to alibaba for the generator syair used. I can't find it could you post it again please.

Dog-One

Quote from: Jimboot on December 04, 2014, 07:44:32 AM
Someone posted a link to alibaba for the generator syair used. I can't find it could you post it again please.

Probably the easiest way is to do like my son showed me.  Search on "ST Generator Head", view images and pick something in the 3 to 10 kW range.  You should get plenty of hits.

thngr

so simpler to replicate for who have doubt about it.( there is an animation also my older post in this topic)
below picture shows coils how to wind. electro magnet coils ten times more turn than the generator turns. cross area of the wires also ten times difrent.

lumen

Quote from: T-1000 on December 04, 2014, 06:12:20 AM
The main difference between transformer and this arrangement is the Lenz force redirection to right vector.
The magnetic field discharge in middle of cycle is doing that. To see what is going on with your own eyes the simple experiment can be done with moving iron bar between magnets and coil like arrangement in my drawing:

T-1000,
Iron that is magnetized is no different than a magnet. Trying to move magnetized iron across a  coil will be subject to lenz force the same as a magnet.

If this works at all it would require that the iron become magnetized while already within the coil winding. In this way lenz force could only serve to push iron out of coil or into another magnet of opposite polarity.

I have serious doubts of any of these devices working as imagined, and believe this is a much more complicated process than it appears and any claim of operation should provide full details for replication.

Once someone re-discovers what Syair has shown, then we could verify a working device, since Syair has made a claim and then vanished. (usually a bad sign)







T-1000

Quote from: lumen on December 04, 2014, 11:46:54 AM
T-1000,
Iron that is magnetized is no different than a magnet. Trying to move magnetized iron across a  coil will be subject to lenz force the same as a magnet.

If this works at all it would require that the iron become magnetized while already within the coil winding. In this way lenz force could only serve to push iron out of coil or into another magnet of opposite polarity.

I have serious doubts of any of these devices working as imagined, and believe this is a much more complicated process than it appears and any claim of operation should provide full details for replication.

Once someone re-discovers what Syair has shown, then we could verify a working device, since Syair has made a claim and then vanished. (usually a bad sign)

The skepticism is healthy and this is why http://www.overunity.com/15083/the-new-generator-no-effect-counter-b-emf-part-2-selfrunning/dlattach/attach/144815/image// is attached to my previous post for simple cheap try for seeing results... :)

As it was said - "Trust but verify"...