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Lenz free generator

Started by life is illusion, December 21, 2014, 03:20:03 PM

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life is illusion

Quote from: dieter on December 27, 2014, 08:13:26 PM


Although, I have made slightly diffrent observations with a coil and a small cylindrical magnet: the closer the magnet is to the edge, the more is the force horizontal. The closer the magnet is to the center of the coil, the more vertical is the force. As we have seen with the wire, this has nothing to do with the distance. There clearly IS a 90 deg shifting of the reaction. Instead of attraction to north and repulsion to south, we now see Attraction at the left edge of north and repulsion at the right edge of the same pole, or visa versa with a reverse current, and the same thing works with the south pole.


As I have already mentioned, this phenomenon can be seen only in gyroscopical recession.


Hi dieter :)
You are very right my friend :) When magnet moved vertically towards the edge of a solenoid, the solenoid will move away from magnet horizontally! So much for " for every action there is equal and OPPOSITE reaction" :D Its absolutely a gyroscopic phenomenon!
I have been trying to think about this since morning and I will continue thinking about this. Something tells me we can find an interesting results by studying these effects :)

Best Regards
Sam

MileHigh

Okay boys, let's bring out the big guns.

The answer is in this clip:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fbhcdS328c

In plain technical English, the force on the wire is the cross product of the direction the current is flowing in and the direction of the magnetic field.  That will cover every possible force phenomenon you observe when having a current-carrying wire interact with the magnetic field of a magnet.

It's universal, it will apply anywhere.  it explains the fantastic "Rodin coil as the next-generation high-fidelity speaker system" also.

In simple English, if the current is flowing in direction X, and the magnetic field is in direction Y, then the force will be in direction Z.  In other words, the force is at right angles to the direction of the wire and at right angles to the direction of the magnetic field, a la x-y-z.

QuoteIts absolutely a gyroscopic phenomenon!

Whoops!  I don't think so, just look at the clip.

broli

Quote from: MileHigh on December 28, 2014, 03:37:51 PM
Okay boys, let's bring out the big guns.

The answer is in this clip:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fbhcdS328c

In plain technical English, the force on the wire is the cross product of the direction the current is flowing in and the direction of the magnetic field.  That will cover every possible force phenomenon you observe when having a current-carrying wire interact with the magnetic field of a magnet.

It's universal, it will apply anywhere.  it explains the fantastic "Rodin coil as the next-generation high-fidelity speaker system" also.

In simple English, if the current is flowing in direction X, and the magnetic field is in direction Y, then the force will be in direction Z.  In other words, the force is at right angles to the direction of the wire and at right angles to the direction of the magnetic field, a la x-y-z.

Whoops!  I don't think so, just look at the clip.

Not everybody necessarily agrees with that point of view. Here's one person who doesn for example: https://www.youtube.com/user/rdistinti

He makes equally good video presentations. I dare you to play the whole playlist (but I doubt you will :) ).

life is illusion

Quote from: broli on December 28, 2014, 03:54:16 PM
Not everybody necessarily agrees with that point of view. Here's one person who doesn for example: https://www.youtube.com/user/rdistinti

He makes equally good video presentations. I dare you to play the whole playlist (but I doubt you will :) ).
Hello :)

I can not thank you enough for sharing the youtube channel. I am already in love with the guy :)

Best Regards
Sam

MileHigh

Quote from: broli on December 28, 2014, 03:54:16 PM
Not everybody necessarily agrees with that point of view. Here's one person who doesn for example: https://www.youtube.com/user/rdistinti

He makes equally good video presentations. I dare you to play the whole playlist (but I doubt you will :) ).

I am looking at his channel and I don't see anything yet about the interaction between a current-carrying wire and a constant magnetic field.  I doubt that he discusses this or discusses the root explanation.  Assuming that I am correct, how do you know that he disagrees with what is taught in the clip I linked to?  Perhaps you are making a judgment too soon.

You notice in my clip he explains how an electric motor works.  Anybody could set up a simple experiment and verify that what is stated in the clip is true.  Make a little motor with some loops of wire and a pivot point.  Sit that on top of one of your bigger coils and put DC current through the coil.  Then put current through the loops of wire and confirm that the cross-product interaction takes place.