Just an Observation from a new member

[MileHigh]

Madeo:

As you are already learning, this is a place that respects differing opinions and multiple points of view.  I will state whatever I want to say whether you approve of it or not.  Likewise, you are free to do the same.  All of this should be done in the context of respect for others.

Dieter:

There is nothing to be proud about by displaying a desire for willful ignorance and narrow-mindedness.  Put me on ignore, that's up to you.  But know for certain that I state things of real worth, and if you want to be willfully ignorant that's your choice.  Many people will back me up and many times people have thanked me for my comments.

Both of you:

Your swagger is fake and as you can see it bit you right back in the ass.  Show some humility and respect for others and respect for different opinions from your own.

Chet:

Do you deserve to be scolded when you chase after pipe dreams and seemingly have lost your basic common sense?  The answer is sometimes you do.  You spin a story about Google searching.  You are fully aware that there a many people that have a wealth of experience and education around here.  I don't even compare to some of them but I can hold my own.  So your story about "relying on Google" and all that stuff is a combination of pure speculation and sour grapes on your part.

You want to support a low-life in Ontario that is just looking for 50% down payments in the form of bank transfers?  The narrative with that guy follows the script for a con artist to the letter.  Where are your critical thinking skills?  At the same time, am I actually literally physically stopping you if you want to spend your own money, drive to Ontario, do whatever you want to do to meet up with that low-life?  The answer is NO, my text postings on a chat board will not stop you from doing what you want to do.

Note that I am batting 1000 and you are batting ZERO.  I would love if you helped uncover something that would transform the world and were instrumental in making it all happen.  Nonetheless, if another "Magnagcoaster" type of story happens and you go all go-go-ga-ga over it and it looks like nonsensical junk then myself and others will let you know what we think.  You are back to the same old "problem" of respecting multiple opinions and points of view.

MileHigh

[ramset]

MH
Malarkey


We have found a very effective way to investigate claims cut short wasted time and minimize scamming , to offer a venue to the experimenter/claimant
at no cost whatsoever and by qualified persons with certified equipment.


you however are not part of this group and choose to play games from the sideline instead


one method yields indisputable results ,the other allows for years of nonsense pompous posturing   name calling assumptions ,fighting etc etc etc ....
oh and "sour grapes too"...


I propose that your shadow boxing paper tiger fighting from "make believe land" enables a scandal much more than our method


history has proven this..[by your own citations]


end of story


this has been the airing of grievance


let the festivus begin


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dS7-jcsB_WQ


next will be feats of strength...

[MileHigh]

Chet:

The problem is that you are the one in make-believe land.  If you have technical resources to offer to an inventor, then I would think that you would want to qualify the inventor's proposition and the inventor himself or herself.

Have you seen the last two or thee Yildiz motor demos?  They were complete farces.  That may happen to you.  You will drive eight hours, get some people and equipment together, and the inventor will have accidentally dropped his nail file into the guts of his device and the demo will be canceled.  The inventor would just be 'playing the system' for the exposure.

MileHigh

[MarkE]

Orb
its not the on topic posts in their field  that Mark E and MH   make, its when they go to google search and try to validate a position based on google and not their own testing and bench time or even personal experience..

Let me get this straight:  You object to others offering supporting references for their statements and opinions?  What do you think is improper about supplanting one's own personal experience with what others have learned and published?

because they will gladly step into ANY topic based on their confidence in Google or whoever.


this is very uncomfortable to see and read ...we can all do that..


and quite condescending ,sort of like the attitude "oh we need to save the idiots from themselves or when Scammers show up"or they'll throw all their money away ....

There are any number of people in this world who will not be discouraged from supporting scams and their perpetrators no matter how strong the evidence.  James Randi calls such people "The Believers".  there are however also many people who are interested in finding out what is true and what is false.

"WHAT"


arrogant and condescending , and when you treat men like idiots in real life you usually get put in your place very quickly  .


they are sooo far into their own superiority that they can't see the forest for the tree's

Please point to a "forest" that I have missed.

MH perceives  an offer to investigate a claim as some sort of endorsement of a fraud ??
he really feels this way !!
its like me saying He's a murderer because he watches murder mysteries...
and I call the cops on him ....

I think that it is fair to say that you continue to hold out hope for GDS long beyond the point that any reasonable person has long since correctly concluded that Greg Potter is completely full of malarky.  You represent that is not an endorsement of GDS.  I accept that you are not explicitly endorsing GDS.  IMO you are however promoting their claims by refusing to acknowledge the overwhelming compelling evidence against them, with nothing but their constantly changing word for support.  To me it is a willful ignorance.

Nuts


people pick up on this and see it for what its worth ,the resident genius thing don't fly
"you do you.."
when it comes to things you have no personal experience with ,do us a favor
move on ...
we have computers too and can read all we want about LENR NMR NAR or water disassociation.
or even Magnetism and gravity .
when you treat men like idiots you get this type of thing [insults and such]


in person it usually gets a bit feistier...bruises black eyes and such...

Do you have any examples?

thx
Chet

I am perfectly OK with the fact that you want to hold out hope for the hopeless cause that is GDS.  That's your personal choice and right.  I do object that you hold your choice as a basis to criticize those who have developed informed opinions based on facts.

[MarkE]

MH
Malarkey


We have found a very effective way to investigate claims cut short wasted time and minimize scamming , to offer a venue to the experimenter/claimant
at no cost whatsoever and by qualified persons with certified equipment.


you however are not part of this group and choose to play games from the sideline instead


one method yields indisputable results ,the other allows for years of nonsense pompous posturing   name calling assumptions ,fighting etc etc etc ....
oh and "sour grapes too"...


I propose that your shadow boxing paper tiger fighting from "make believe land" enables a scandal much more than our method


history has proven this..[by your own citations]


end of story


this has been the airing of grievance


let the festivus begin


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dS7-jcsB_WQ


next will be feats of strength...

Chet, can you show how your claimed very effective and time efficient methods have for example worked in the case of GDS?