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Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

Started by EMJunkie, January 16, 2015, 12:08:38 AM

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MarkE

Quote from: EMJunkie on May 07, 2015, 06:57:45 PM
MileHigh - In the case of a Standard Conventional Transformer - Do the Magnetic Fields Interact with each Other?

       Answer: YES

Ever heard of Induction brother?

I am sorry, but this is your biggest FAIL to date!!!
Induction is an action between a time varying relationship of a magnetic field orthogonal to a conductor.  If the conductor does not connect in a closed circuit current does not flow and there is but the original inducing magnetic field.

MileHigh

Quote from: tinman on May 07, 2015, 11:45:28 PM
Also, where is north and south field In a toroid?. If it dosnt have north or south, then is that a monopole field. If we look at a normal magnetic field, north and south is seen as a flow out\flow in, but here there is no flow out\flow in with a toroid.

I must have posted about 100 times over the years that there is no such thing as a north and south pole with respect to a magnetic field.  They are just artificial concepts that make it easy to discuss and apply magnetic fields in practical applications.

QuoteAlso, where is north and south field In a toroid?. If it dosnt have north or south, then is that a monopole field.

Perhaps this is a good time to forget about the bench for a while and open up a book.

MarkE

Quote from: tinman on May 07, 2015, 11:45:28 PM
Still dosnt seem right. That seems to indicate that the outer perimeter has the highest flux density, and the inner part of the core (inner perimeter) has the lowest flux density. This is opposite to what it should be. One would think that the area of the core that is least, but has more turn overlap of wire, would have the highest flux density. The outer perimeter has muchmore core material, but less wire overlap. It seems to make sense that the outer perimeter of the core would then recieve less magnetic flux from the conducting wire. But going against all this, I believe the highest flux density would be in the center of the core.

Also, where is north and south field In a toroid?. If it dosnt have north or south, then is that a monopole field. If we look at a normal magnetic field, north and south is seen as a flow out\flow in, but here there is no flow out\flow in with a toroid.
Your intuition of the highest flux density being on the inner radius is correct.  And, that is what the temperature plot shows:  red on the inside: IE higher flux density , and blue on the outside, IE lower flux density.

MileHigh

The Magnetic Field Due to a Toroid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCSHcftPAIM

Watch this clip carefully.  You can use simple deductive reasoning to calculate the magnetic field inside a toroid.  You don't even have to go onto a bench at all.

You can clearly see that the strength of the magnetic field is proportional to 1/r.   You can also see that the formula is actually very simple and very elegant and makes perfect intuitive sense.

That's in contrast to the continuous pitching for "amazing effects that conventional science doesn't understand."  When it comes to basic electronics the subject is 100% covered.  When someone says to you that "we don't really understand transformers and they can be over unity under the 'right' conditions" they are FOS.

Pirate88179

Quote from: MileHigh on May 08, 2015, 12:09:30 AM
The Magnetic Field Due to a Toroid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCSHcftPAIM

Watch this clip carefully.  You can use simple deductive reasoning to calculate the magnetic field inside a toroid.  You don't even have to go onto a bench at all.

You can clearly see that the strength of the magnetic field is proportional to 1/r.   You can also see that the formula is actually very simple and very elegant and makes perfect intuitive sense.

That's in contrast to the continuous pitching for "amazing effects that conventional science doesn't understand."  When it comes to basic electronics the subject is 100% covered.  When someone says to you that "we don't really understand transformers and they can be over unity under the 'right' conditions" they are FOS.

Nice video MH.  Thanks for linking that.  For some reason, this guy made it pretty clear and I understood what he was saying.

Bill
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