Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

[TinselKoala]

What did I learn from Itsu's power measurement clip?

So to me that means that when you have the bucking secondary setup, the more closely matched the two bucking coils are, the less voltage you get across the pair of bucking coils.  This obviously hampers your ability to output power into a load resistor and I discussed that in more detail in an earlier posting.

What I did not realize was that the power output in certain setups can be so low, that it is barely "noticed" by the transformer primary, and by the driving signal source, which in Itsu's case is a signal generator.  The result of that is the transformer primary is effectively not really loaded and therefore to the driving signal source the transformer looks mostly like an inductor.  If it looked like a pure inductor the phase shift between the voltage and the current would be 90 degrees.  In Itsu's case the phase shift is something like 87 degrees.

Do you realize what that means?  It means that the bucking coil transformer is acting like a blocking device not letting any power go to the load resistor.  The more matched the two separate bucking coils are the more there is blocking of the power flow from the power source to the load.  When the bucking coils are perfectly matched then the bucking coil transformer will block 100% of the power from going into the load resistor.
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Is this what is happening with Conrad's circuit at high frequency? So that the power in the primary seems to be all reactive, giving a "zero" power result, and yet the power measured in the secondary is 3 mW or so?

[synchro1]

I came across this experiment on "Bucking Magnet Fields" and "Scaler Waves". I found it interesting because it demonstrates that Scaler Waves are emitted from the joint between the magnet faces at certain frequencies. This caused me to reflect on the Jerry Bayles spinning "Chiral Disk" magnet tests. (Chiral=Bucking). The experimenter's lighting a "Zenon tube" just exciting the magnet windings with that DC motor!
        _______
      |\        \
      |  \        \
      |\   \        \
      |  \   \ _______\ S
       \   \  |       |      Obtain two Radio Shack ceramic magnets and
         \   \|_______| N    glue their north pole faces together.
           \  |       | N
             \|_______|
                        S


            _______          Wind the magnets with about 50 turns
          |\   \\\  \        of #30 magnet wire.  Wire gauge is not
          |  \  \\\\  \      critical.
          |\   \  \\\\  \
          |  \   \ _\\\\__\
           \   \  |  |||| |
             \   \|__||||_|
               \  |  |||| |
                 \|__||||_|
                     \  |      ________
                     |  |     [ small, ]
                     |   -----[ noisy  ]----------o
                     |        [_motor__]           6v to 12v power supply
                     |
                     |____________________________o

The brush noise from the DC motor provides a pulse signal to the coil,
which modulates the 'colliding' field pattern of the magnets and creates
interesting scalar effects within a narrow pencil-beam pattern which extends
from each face of the magnet out to a few inches.

            _______
          |\   \\\  \
          |  \  \\\\  \
          |\   \  \\\\  \
  <<<<<<<<<<<\   \ _\\\\__\>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scalar effect comes from the
  <<<<<<<<<<<<<\  |  |||| |>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> joint between magnet faces
             \   \|__||||_|
               \  |  |||| |
                 \|__||||_|
                     \  |
                     |  |
                     |  |

[Magluvin]

I came across this experiment on "Bucking Magnet Fields" and "Scaler Waves". I found it interesting because it demonstrates that Scaler Waves are emitted from the joint between the magnet faces at certain frequencies. This caused me to reflect on the Jerry Bayles spinning "Chiral Disk" magnet tests. (Chiral=Bucking).
        _______
      |\        \
      |  \        \
      |\   \        \
      |  \   \ _______\ S
       \   \  |       |      Obtain two Radio Shack ceramic magnets and
         \   \|_______| N    glue their north pole faces together.
           \  |       | N
             \|_______|
                        S


            _______          Wind the magnets with about 50 turns
          |\   \\\  \        of #30 magnet wire.  Wire gauge is not
          |  \  \\\\  \      critical.
          |\   \  \\\\  \
          |  \   \ _\\\\__\
           \   \  |  |||| |
             \   \|__||||_|
               \  |  |||| |
                 \|__||||_|
                     \  |      ________
                     |  |     [ small, ]
                     |   -----[ noisy  ]----------o
                     |        [_motor__]           6v to 12v power supply
                     |
                     |____________________________o

The brush noise from the DC motor provides a pulse signal to the coil,
which modulates the 'colliding' field pattern of the magnets and creates
interesting scalar effects within a narrow pencil-beam pattern which extends
from each face of the magnet out to a few inches.

            _______
          |\   \\\  \
          |  \  \\\\  \
          |\   \  \\\\  \
  <<<<<<<<<<<\   \ _\\\\__\>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scalar effect comes from the
  <<<<<<<<<<<<<\  |  |||| |>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> joint between magnet faces
             \   \|__||||_|
               \  |  |||| |
                 \|__||||_|
                     \  |
                     |  |
                     |  |

Pretty neat.  Where did you find this idea?

Mags

[MileHigh]

Conrad, TK:

Great reporting from Conrad, and I think his measurement method is sound.  But of course I have suggestions and comments.  I will tell you up front that I am at a disadvantage to you guys.  I don't really have any "feel" and my "touch skills" for this stuff are long gone.  When did I really and truly play with this kind of stuff?  In my Electronics I, II, and III labs in 1980-82.  There was a preliminary course called Basic Circuit Analysis and there was another course called Pulse Circuits and a bunch of other courses.  When I worked in this field I used a scope primarily to check the integrity of digital signals on circuit boards, not to play with coils and transformers.

Here is an example of my limitations:  It looks like for Conrad's first test at 50 Hz the reactance of the 60-turn H1 coil is almost nil and so it looks like a dead short at 50 Hz.  But I look at the picture and see that it is wound on a ferrite closed-loop core so I am saying to myself that doesn't seem to make sense.  My problem is that I don't have a "feel" for that.  However, I am pretty good as suggesting lines of investigation and supplementary tests.  If I was Conrad I would like to resolve that issue.  I would just measure the inductance of the H1 coil with everything else disconnected from the transformer.  I don't know if you have an inductance meter or if you can set up a test to measure inductance with your scope, but it would be nice to know that.

If it turns out that the inductance of H1 is indeed very low such that it is almost a dead short at 50 Hz, then now we know.  If it is, then I breathe a sigh of relief because your first round of measurements then seem to make sense.

Before really getting into the meat the measurements, I have a few other important comments.

As I have already mentioned in the case of Itsu, with very closely balanced bucking coils, the output voltage across the pair of bucking coils is very low and that arguably messes a lot of things up which I believe explains the first round of measurements.

So, my suggestion would be to bypass the bucking configuration just to make a "reality check" and make sure that your transformer setup does indeed work fine as a low-power transformer that does easily support some decent power throughput.  The simple way to do that would be to connect your load resistor across only one of the bucking coils.  That should give you a simple 1:3 step-up transformer.  If you get good power throughput results that would also confirm that you have a nice low-reluctance magnetic circuit backbone without any issues there.  You should also see the phase shift between the voltage and the current on the input be very low or zero when driving a load resistor.  You should be able to see something like say 3 watts on the input, and 2.95 watts on the output.  You could also lower the value of the load resistor and verify that the setup draws proportionally more power just like it is supposed to do.

TK, to respond to your question about measuring the power going input H1 coil:   Recall that with a conventional transformer the load on the secondary is reflected on the primary.  So the input coil will not look like a coil any more, it will look like a resistor.  So there is no issue measuring the voltage and the current going into the H1 primary coil.  Even if "something else is happening" there is still no reason that you can't measure the power going into H1 and any possible associated reactance of H1.

So in the next posting I will discuss the measurements.  The quick short and skinny is that it looks to me that the fact that very little power goes into the load resistor makes the input side of the transformer look more like an inductance than a device that is reflecting the load power back to the input.   Hence my suggestion above to just put a load resistor across a single bucking coil and leave the other bucking coil disconnected as a reality check.

MileHigh

[synchro1]

Pretty neat.  Where did you find this idea?

Mags

@Magluvin,

Check this link out:

http://www.gocs1.com/gocs1/Psionics/SCALARBEAMER.htm