2nd law violation:new battery type "poor man's Karpen"

[conradelektro]

Magnesium and carbon (or copper and aluminium or steel) in tap water will give some Voltage (depending on the metals) and some µA of current (diminishing in a few seconds). This happens because there are little amounts of different salts and other pollutants in tap water. One can increase the electricity output by adding table salt to the tap water. For this reason it works rather well with sea water (several mA can be achieved).

So I do not understand what the experiment you propose (two different metals or a metal and carbon as the other electrode in tap water) can show. The result is well known.

The only interesting part would be a special electrolyte which does not consume one metal (and depositing it onto the other) but still gives electricity.

I can understand that you would want to keep such an electrolyte secret, but I do not understand what the experiment with tap water would have to do with it, since the reaction in tap water (because of little amounts of salts in it) is well known.

Greetings, Conrad

[conradelektro]

But my plan isn't to take anything to market but to show everyone how they can make one themselves and not just a small one but a big usable unit

I'm doing that this way because people like that "noise member" are the type to take an idea and ruin it for everyone, trust me it will be worth it and their is nothing hard or special ever one can do it in the living room. And the electrolyte is as simple as tap water

I'm a firm believer that if you give a man a fish he will eat for a day but if you teach him to fish he'll eat for a lifetime

So, you do not want to keep it secret after all?

How can anybody "ruin it for everyone" if you make a clear disclosure?

You say, it is nothing hard or special. So where is the problem? You could say the big news in a few sentences or a list of ingredients (may be even a recipe).

We need only one electrolyte. Tell the one first and then you teach how to find others. This would make it much simpler. And it also would make it instantly clear whether you have something worth while to say.

Please, make it short, the world is teaming with teachers who have nothing to teach besides their strange personality, which is rarely valuable.

Greetings, Conrad

[ramset]

Jon
Perhaps you over estimate Stefan's diligence here,unless you Went out of your way to reach him and notify Him ??


I truly hope you are correct and respect you for sharing. I recognize one name you mentioned,  profitis and he has been talking for quite some time about something similar?
if you feel you would like to get more open source exposure we do have owners of other forums that can be contacted for this?? I absolutely guarantee no Businessmen.


let me Know


respectfully
Chetkremens@Gmail.com

[TinselKoala]

Truesearch I don't want you to think that was directed at you in anyway. Server lag placed it after your post . I will have the debate or conversation with anyone at anytime about the validity of my claims. Hell i prefer it. However I will not have the degrading no you can't yes you can argument. And that argument is what stops many of the ideas and builds on this forum from making the main stream science community


Jon

Sorry, you are wrong about that statement. What stops "many" of the ideas and builds on this forum from "making the mainstream science community" is that the claims made for them are simply wrong and they simply do not work as presented.

There is _no way_ that an argument on an obscure, niche-level internet forum can possibly affect the validity or development of a device that actually works as claimed!

[jonfrommanahawkin1]

forget i even said anything now trolls wait