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-----> Magnet Motor Drives Generator for FREE JUICE.

Started by FatBird, March 06, 2015, 11:22:45 AM

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tinman

Cangas is correct about valve knock-->there is no such thing as valves knocking. The only situation that can occure that creates valve noise(not loose tappets) is valve float. This is when the engines RPM exceeds that of which the valves can close before the next cycle for that valve starts. Rattle or knocking is caused by high temperatures,too higher compression for the octane rating for that fuel,or timing to far advanced.Stale fuel also dose you no favours.

Cangas
A standard ICE engine can be modified to achieve over that 50% efficieny you speak of,all you do is raise the compression ratio to very high(such as a diesel engine),and add water/catalist mix to the gasoline.You will see those guru's here on OU tell you all about what water is and how it reacts-->but none of them know what is taking place inside the cylinder of an ICE when the big bang takes place when useing water mixed with gasoline. The best they can do is quote text book physics,but no text book provides actual data to this situation. They will argue the point with you,even though you have a working modle,and all they have is books that are irrelevant to this situation.When you achieve results that far outway any fuel efficiency gain that could be had with water injection,they fall flat on there face. They simply dont know what happens to the water when it is subjected to extreem temperatures and pressures-->in combination to the chemical processes taking place at the time.

MarkE

Quote from: Jimboot on March 07, 2015, 09:05:40 PM
Well I was one of those that corresponded with him. Hardly an investigation though. We were all met with pretty much the same response. Come over and investigate if you are an engineer. So whilst the vids could easily be explained away I think he is right when he asserts there has been no thorough investigation of the claims published.As we say over here though, if it quacks like a duck.....
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The third videw had wires planted in the ground.  That was a direct attempt to deceive.  The first and second video had the motor function built into the "generator".  Again more direct attempts to deceive. 

CANGAS

Quote from: tinman on March 08, 2015, 01:10:30 AM
Cangas is correct about valve knock-->there is no such thing as valves knocking. The only situation that can occure that creates valve noise(not loose tappets) is valve float. This is when the engines RPM exceeds that of which the valves can close before the next cycle for that valve starts. Rattle or knocking is caused by high temperatures,too higher compression for the octane rating for that fuel,or timing to far advanced.Stale fuel also dose you no favours.

Cangas
A standard ICE engine can be modified to achieve over that 50% efficieny you speak of,all you do is raise the compression ratio to very high(such as a diesel engine),and add water/catalist mix to the gasoline.You will see those guru's here on OU tell you all about what water is and how it reacts-->but none of them know what is taking place inside the cylinder of an ICE when the big bang takes place when useing water mixed with gasoline. The best they can do is quote text book physics,but no text book provides actual data to this situation. They will argue the point with you,even though you have a working modle,and all they have is books that are irrelevant to this situation.When you achi eve results that far outway any fuel efficiency gain that could be had with water injection,they fall flat on there face. They simply dont know what happens to the water when it is subjected to extreem temperatures and pressures-->in combination to the chemical processes taking place at the time.


Hey, Jack, I did not get into this brawl to prove or disprove your invention, just to correct the idiotic disinformation spewed by whomsoever.

Many years ago today, I invented a perfect IC piston engine that had the best efficiency theoretically possible. Then I noticed that some people somewhere were claiming OU by coal fusion. Or maybe that was cold fusion.   ;D  Henceforth  I began to study and invent based on  principles beside chemical combustion. My studies and inventions have not been entirely without positive results.  ;) But I am not in the least interested now about whether somebody's ICE can get 30% efficiency or 57% efficiency. Many years ago today, I already invented the ICE that is the best it can be. I never calculated or tested the efficiency. If yours is 57, then, mine had to be at least 58.

I have considered digging it up and using it as a match to light my fire with. But I do not have the time, the energy, and other resources, to fight a war on two fronts simultaneously.

The best ICE is not as good as the worst OU device.


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CANGAS 154

MarkE

Quote from: tinman on March 07, 2015, 10:49:56 PM
Bill
Water cannot be burned full stop-regardless of what it may go through. Having to burn something in order for it to be classed as a fuel is incorrect. Fuel is a substance that produces a force/and or energy. As we cannot create energy,then the energy already existed in the fuel,so only a transformation takes place. Water to steam is such a transformation,but the steam is still water,just small particles.
You are conflating propellant with fuel.  A propellant merely conforms to Newton's Third Law.  A fuel is consumed:  The feed stock changes into a different material with a lower energy potential, and the difference in energy is released.
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Here is the experiment i started out with some 3 years ago to get to where i am today.This is one anyone can carry out that has some sort of mechanical skills.For this we will use an !off the shelf! catalyst,and an !off the shelf! generator of your liking--> i used a 1200 watt generator with a 4 stroke IEC.

First you pick a load that will be constant throughout the testing-->i used a 500 watt flood light,and had an AC volt meter across that light to make sure the voltage remains constant. A pre run of the generator to get it up to running teperature is also a good idea.

Test 1-You place 1/2 ltr of standard fuel into the tank(i swapped the original tank out for a 1 ltr tank.
Then run the generator with load until the fuel has been used,recording the teperature of the engine during the run,and the voltage across the load. The voltage should remain constant,as the generator is governed to run at a fixed RPM. Record run time,and engine temp.

Test 2.
Now you will need to run the generator with a catalyst mixed in with the fuel at a 4:1 ratio,but maintain the total liquid amount at 1/2 ltr. So for this test i used 400ml of gasoline,and 100ml of metholated spirits-->as it mixes both with gasoline and water. You then run test 1 again,and record run time and engine teperature.

Test 3
You now mix your fuel(the 4:1 gasoline/metho mix),BUT you add 100 ml of water to the metholated spirits first-->before adding it to the gasoline. You then run your test again,recording run time and engine teperature. The voltage across the load will remain the same due to the engine speed being governed-->but keep an eye on it anyway.

My results of that test as recoreded in my log's.

Test 1
Run time-27 minutes,38 seconds-->engine full stop.
Engine temperature at cylinder-142*C
Load 500 watts.

Test 2
Run time-25 minutes,22 seconds-->engine full stop
Engine temperature at cylinder-138*C
Load 500 watts

Test 3

Run time-36 minutes,42 second's-->engine full stop.
Load 500 watts
Engine temperature at cylinder-144*C

So from this we ask-->where did the energy come from to gain a longer run time,and a higher engine teperature?.
Well that was a nice attempt to try and conduct a meaningful experiment.  However:

You did not determine the caloric output of any of the three fuels used.
You did not determine whether any of the fuel alterations affected the caloric to mechanical efficiency of the engine.

So you pretty much can only conclude what you observed:  CHT and run time versus fuel type.


Jimboot

Quote from: MarkE on March 08, 2015, 01:34:17 AM
The third videw had wires planted in the ground.  That was a direct attempt to deceive.  The first and second video had the motor function built into the "generator".  Again more direct attempts to deceive.
So a thorough investigation of the videos is probably mor accurate.